"CE marked" isn't all of the answer, though. If somebody is CE marking a connector, they must have issued a Declaration of Conformity, and that declaration must cite specific standards - it would be interesting to see the D of C for this particular connector type.
"For what application?" would also need to be considered. In general, Europe wouldn't like them in a machine subject to vibration, for example. Some 61010 equipment is machinery. Also, some standards have specific requirements about connections being mechanically locked, which a wire nut type doesn't achieve. John C -----Original Message----- From: Richard Nute [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 October 2012 21:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] What's the deal with Wire Nuts? Hi Doug: This doesn't answer your questions... "Ideal Twister Pro" wire nuts are CE marked and claimed to meet international standards. This would imply that such connection means are acceptable in Europe. Also, Ideal makes a "push-in" wire connector that can be put into a separate box. Kinda neat. This scheme seems to answer your issues. Take a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk0-8RKG0so Best regards, Rich -----Original Message----- From: Doug Powell Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 8:44 AM To: emc-pstc Subject: What's the deal with Wire Nuts? At the risk of redundancy, I would like to re-open a question from 2008 "What's the deal with Wire Nuts?" http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg56599.html The original discussion seems to track well with my own opinion on the use of these wiring devices, but this is based my opinion. I am aware of many American appliance manufacturers who use these devices and still obtain their safety certifications. It is my *opinion* that any equipment destined for the European market should not use these devices but I cannot find any direct prohibition on their use. The IPC 620 standard may have limits but this is more like a workmanship standard. Several reasons might be used to prohibit their use: 1) Temperature ratings 2) Secondary securement of conductors 3) Insufficient coverage of bare metal parts and resulting electrical tape used (creepage problem) 4) No limit to the number of conductors 5) Over/Under twisting of the connector 6) Metallic insert or non-metallic This time around my context is equipment that falls under the scope of IEC 61010-1 and its derivatives. Has anyone seen a definitive answer to this question? -- Thanks, -doug Douglas E Powell [email protected] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
