Re: [PSES] For indoor use only

[Doug Powell]

Title: For indoor use only

For the restricting of use by children, the latest editions of IEC Standards are including foreseeable risk as a potential hazard.   In concept, this would include use of an appliance by children when used in household or other places when children are present. Factors such as lack of adult supervision must be considered as a risk factor.   One very interesting aspect of this is whether or not the product has any "child appealing" attributes. For example, say you have designed a hot water vaporizer for use in a sick room. If the vaporizer is styled as an attractive toy, such as in a real world case of a green frog, this would be child appealing and prohibited. Otherwise an appliance such as this would only be required to have the normal keep out of reach of children and adults supervision warnings in addition to the other hazard warnings such as shock, spillage, burn, etc. Another case might be an appliance that requires adult installation and setup but child operation. For example a home computer. The latest edition of IEC 60950-1 and it's replacement standard IEC 62368-1, both have risk analysis provisions. It is the responsibility of the original manufacturer to provide due diligence in evaluating these situations through some type of a formalized process and present a report to the certifying agency for review. The agency is not allowed to make design suggestions however.   Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 From: Scott Xe Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:00 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Scott Xe Subject: [PSES] For indoor use only All the electronics and electrical appliances are designed for indoor use only unless some specially designed for outdoor use.  It seems this warning or symbol can be applied to all electronics and electrical appliances but that is not the case.  Most of relevant standards are not required to have the warning or symbol except a few such as battery charger, Annex AA (Battery chargers for use by children) of EN 60335-2-29.  Is it the responsibility of the suppliers to prohibit the use of products to by children?  Nowadays, every family has lots of electronics and electrical appliances, prohibiting the use by children seems unrealistic.  What is the trend for the standards to catch up this area? Thanks and regards, Scott - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>