Ron / Jody
Product is covered by Semi S2, and 3rd party report. We apply 61010-1 standards as the equipment is "industrial process control" - and will be NRTL listed. The equipment is going to be sold into more than one jurisdiction - is applicability, or not, of NFPA 79 going to come down to interpretation of local AHJ, or is there a way I can get a definitive in/out scope decision? regards Charlie ________________________________ From: Ronald Wellman <[email protected]> Sent: 08 October 2014 13:51 To: Charlie Blackham; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Scope of NFPA 79 You might want to ask your Customers what they require. Since your equipment processes semiconductor gases then SEMI S2 will most likely come into play. Also, depending on who your Customers are, they might require field labeling to comply with local OSHA requirements, and the standard mostly used in these cases is NFPA 79. Best regards, Ron Wellman From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 3:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] Scope of NFPA 79 All I'm trying to determine whether a product falls within scope of NFPA79 for USA. EU Machinery Directive determines whether a product is within scope by what it does, but my reading of NFPA79 is that the latter also considers "what it does it to". Looking at the 2015 version, NFPA79, Chapter 3, section 3.3.54 defines 'Industrial Machinery' as: " A power-driven machine (or group of machines working together in a coordinated manner), not portable by hand while working, that is used to process material by cutting; forming; pressure; electrical, thermal, or optical techniques; lamination; or a combination of these processes. Machine can include associated equipment used to transfer material or tooling, including fixtures to assemble/disassemble, to inspect or test, or to package. [The associated electrical equipment, including the logic controller(s) and associated software or logic together with the machine actuators and sensors, are considered as part of the industrial machine.]" The product in question processes gases (in silicon wafer and flat panel manufacturing plants) - so I don't think it processes "material". If that is the case, it would be outside scope of NFPA79, and just within scope of NFPA70. Comments? regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: www.sulisconsultants.com<https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
