The false presumption here is that if you mount it on the wall, and connect the mains installation wiring to it, it is an outlet. Not, it's a permanently connected apparatus, with an added power outlet. Same is true for lighting dimmers and timer, mounted in an outlet /switchbox.
Gert Gremmen -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Verzonden: zaterdag 14 maart 2015 12:23 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets In message <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEGjmYsMtGZAuvo7rFLQ++figAAAEAAAAApZgy7gRjRIgOS1 e [email protected]>, dated Sat, 14 Mar 2015, John Allen <[email protected]> writes: >Leaving aside the LVD "in/out" issues, since a small USB charger is >almost inherently not "EMC benign", then surely it must be subject to >the EMCD - unless you firmly play the "installations" card - ? I agree up to a point. As you say, once you invoke 'fixed installation' you raise the subject of EMC assessing the whole house. > >If it IS subject to the EMCD, then the "essential requirements" of that >apply - regardless of whether there are directly-applicable harmonised >Standards - , CE marking is required and the overall CE marking >requirements apply, and that would then throw the RoHS II requirements >into play as well. The CE mark can't be applied because it's prohibited on mains plugs and sockets. It's an unresolvable paradox, due to the absence of relevant standards. > >So, I think the "installations" issue could probably be the critical >one. See above; it just raises further unresolvable issues. What we should be pressing for is an applicable standard, not trying to hammer existing standards into applicability. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
