You often get heavy electrical machinery in residential, light commercial
and hospital (etc.) (especially multi-story) premises - think local power
transformers, air-conditioning systems, lifts/elevators, water/sewage
pumping equipment, etc - and that can (and has certainly been seen to)
affect domestic, IT and medical electronic equipment in those premises.

 

It's the end-use environment that is (or should be) the determining factor
in deciding with which category of requirements the EUT must comply.

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 18 October 2016 16:10
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial
for EMC testing purposes

 

No, because light industry premises are often very close to residential
premises, get power from the low-voltage supply and broadcast receivers can
be much closer than 30 m (the assumption for emission limit purposes is 10
m, but of course they could be even closer).

 

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only

www.jmwa.demon.co.uk <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/>  J M Woodgate and
Associates Rayleigh England

 

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

 

From: Schmidt, Mark [mailto:markschm...@xrite.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 3:57 PM
To: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial
for EMC testing purposes

 

Hi John,

 

Would this be applicable for Light Industrial equipment as well?

 

Thank you.

 

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:49 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial
for EMC testing purposes

 

For Europe, 'industry' means heavy industry - large machines, high-power
electrical installation, not powered from the public low-voltage supply. No
broadcast radio or TV receivers likely to be within 30 metres.

 

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only

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From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:45 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Criteria for determining industrial vs. non-industrial for
EMC testing purposes

 

Good Morning,

 

What do you use for criteria when reviewing the intended environment in
which a device will be placed to determine if it is industrial or
non-industrial? I have seen and read varying opinions on what criteria to
use.

 

It ranges from a transformer isolated factory to the nature of the other
products in the immediate vicinity (a mechanical room in a grocery store =
industrial due to the equipment in its immediate environment).

 

I am familiar with some of the definitions in places, but am not so sure
that those are what are typically followed in practice.

 

I appreciate any thoughts. 

 

Thank you.

 

 

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