Hi Piotr, This refers to products supplied by secondary circuit. Power supply is supplied by AC mains therefore primary circuit. For OVC II we always apply 5B. You can trust me on this since we approve many power supplies.
Best regards, Bostjan -----Original Message----- From: Piotr Galka [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:25 PM To: Boštjan Glavič <[email protected]>; EMC-PSTC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Safe powering 12V doorlock Hi Bostjan, In 5.2.2 there is the sentence: "However, for a SECONDARY CIRCUIT that is neither connected to protective earth nor provided with a protective screen in accordance with 2.6.1 e), Table 5C shall be used." I understand that, that way it depends on output which table to select. In Definitions I don't see SECONDARY CIRCUIT but I understand 12V as being here SECONDARY CIRCUIT. As it is (can be) not connected to earth and I don't know of protective screen I'm not sure - may be 5C applies. Beast Regards Piotr W dniu 2017-11-23 o 05:49, Boštjan Glavič pisze: > Hi Piotr, > > I agree with Rich. > > According to specification, output also complies with LPS (Limited Power > Source) therefore output must be SELV. > > There is no PELV definition in IEC 60950-1. > > > About table 5B or 5C, which table you will use does not depend on output from > your power supply but on mains voltage (main network system). For normal > application we are using STAR system with 230V L to N voltage with OVC II --> > you can use table 5B. > > Table 5C is used for OVC III applications. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards, > Bostjan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Nute [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PSES] Safe powering 12V doorlock > > Hi Piotr: > > The easy way to answer your questions is to request a copy of the TUV report. > > 1. I suppose that 12 doorlock manufacturer can use only functional isolation > betwean 12V and its metal casing as he can assume (I think) that he gets safe > voltage. > If I'm wrong with it let me know. > > Yes, only functional insulation between the 12 volts and the metal casing. > > 2. Then as doorlock metal casing can be touched by user than 12V have to be > SELV circuit I think. > > Yes. SELV or PELV; makes no difference. > > 3. I'm not sure if the 12V output from this supply is SELV - is it enough to > test the isolation with 3kV. > > No, 3 kV alone is not sufficient. The isolation must also meet creepage and > clearance distances after being subject to a mechanical test of the isolation > means and the conductors. > > Best regards, > Rich > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list. 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