UL does not have a sense of humor that we are aware of. TOB
From: Jon Keeble [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating We are getting a somewhat innovative product through UL at the moment. So there has been quite a lot of discussion and feedback from UL. But when UL said they thought my little board needed a pilot rating I really thought they were joking. Jon Keeble On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I looked at the subject line and thought about something completely unrelated – pilot ratings. I have a PP-ASEL IA. Private Pilot – Airplane, Single Engine, Land Instrument Airplane. 😊 And you? Ghery S. Pettit From: Jon Keeble [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 12:29 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Pilot rating I am using a Panasonic AQH3213A PhotoMOS optical isolator to control a small contactor. At 110VAC the contactor coil draws 30mArms. The coil contacts are wired to a PCB via a terminal block plug and socket. On the PCB is a series 10ohm fusible resistor, and a SMBJ400AC bidirectional zener. When the switch opens at peak current (42mA) there is 0.1J of energy in the coil that gets absorbed by the zener. The zener * clamps at a voltage way below the voltage rating of the optoMOS switch. * is rated at 600W for 8.3msec and is subject to only 13W for a similar period. The UL test engineer says that the optoMOS should be "pilot duty" rated (the part I am using does have this rating). Does anyone know what triggers the requirement for a "pilot duty" rating? Is this defined in a standard somewhere? This useful link identifies "contact rating codes" https://na.industrial.panasonic.com/blog/what-pilot-duty-rating-how-it-obtained The lowest rating E300 is for 110V 1.8A (make) 0.3A (break) Technically speaking, my switch is not connected to the contactor .. there is a two-component network in between Does UL have the capacity or procedures in place to understand and accept a circtuit analysis that shows my circuit as safe? Jon Keeble Wattwatchers. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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