John Kasunich <jmkasun...@...> writes:

> 
> No, for two reasons:
> 
> 1) A lowpass filter will not solve PID of instability - if anything it 
> will make it worse since it introduces a lag.
> 
> 2) ilowpass is an _integer_ filter, it can't be used for floating point 
> signals (which include the command, feedback, and output of PID loops).
> 
> The correct solution is to tune your PID loops (using D and deadband as 
> needed) until they are stable.  You must use halscope to view the 
> resulting waveforms and decide what to adjust.
> 
> Once you have the axes tuned as well as possible, halscope will tell you 
> the maximum error you have during a rapid.  Assuming that is acceptable, 
> you set the following error a bit higher so it doesn't trip.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Kasunich
 
OK, got that. 

Since I have not had the opportunity to witness other EMC2 servo conversions, I 
am guessing / interpreting what you refer to as "stable". I assume you mean 
that the mid frequency moaning/buzzing goes away. My mill will quiet down after 
sitting at rest for about 30 seconds. I can see this on halscope in the form of 
a sawtooth trace that hovers close to zero. Perhaps my deadband and D term can 
be adjusted so that it quiets down in a few seconds. But then, from experience 
I find that following error goes up. 

Question:
If I tune the PID for the lowest following error while making the buzzing sound 
(sawtooth trace) go away, (and set MIN_FERROR & FERROR accordingly), but then 
if I am not happy with the accuracy of my cuts at normal feedrates (20-70 ipm), 
will I then need to change to higher count encoders? (Currently Renco 500 line 
/ 2000 ppr)

Thanks to all for helping me here...
Tom

~ Kasuga (large Shizuoka type) EMC2 conversion: Mesa 5i20/7i33 - brush servos - 
Advanced Motion PWM brush amps - Renco RCML15 500 line encoders: 2000 ppr in 
quadrature. All the the encoders mounted directly on the back of the servos on 
the rotor/tachometer shaft.






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