Leslie,

Having a tool presetter or not,at some point in time you have to
inform the control how long the next the tool is.So if you go at a one off job
like you have tool holders but really dont, I dont think it will
make much difference time wise.After the first tool you would go to a tool 
change
(you would use the Axis manual tool change)position automaticly and hit esc or 
stop
then you put the next tool in and
touch it off, write it in the tool table in the T2 line
then scroll down to T2M6 in the prog and right click and hit start from here.
I think that is pretty easy.No MDI required.

Replacing broken tools goes like this for me:
Groan loudly hit esc,jog out of the way,pick up
what is left of the tool and throw it at
the wall as hard as I can.So maybe jogging without
having to stop the program would save me some time
so my anger level wouldnt drop and I could get it to go through the wall.

I know that everybody thinks Im critical of the hobby guys,but
I view it as I am the voice of the production/big machine/people
who want to make money guys.I dont have anything against hobby
guys(although I question the sanity of someone who wants to
do what Ive been doing for many years for my job,as their hobby).

I view the developers time as super-valuable and would not
like to see them spend time on this when there are other more
important things on their plate.

Later

Terry

On Sun Jun 21  2:17 , Leslie Newell <les.new...@fastmail.co.uk> sent:

>Hi Terry,
>
>> I have had this ability on machines and only used it once or twice
>> I wouldnt call that a major drawback.
>> Well thought out programs shouldnt need to be stopped.
>
>That depends on how you work. If you are producing 100,000 widgets or 
>you have a set of pre-set tools in holders then manual movements are of 
>no interest to you. However if you are doing one-offs/ small quantities 
>or you don't have enough tool holders then this can be very useful.
>
>While having a tool setter is a useful trick it again doesn't lend 
>itself very well to short runs/one-offs if you don't have enough room on 
>the machine to have a permanently installed tool setter.
>
>
>>> As it stands EMC is designed for those who use tooltables and tool
>>> holders.
>> 
>> 90% of the world uses tooltables
>
>
>What about the other 10%? I bet 90% of hobbyists don't use tool tables.
>
>>> consequence of that severe limitation is, it doesn't cater for easy tool
>>> wear adjustment or replacement.
>> 
>> Tool tables will allow you to adjust for wear.
>
>Maybe. But what about tool replacement?
>
>
>Les


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