On Friday 11 December 2009, Dave wrote: >I love techie stuff as much as anyone, but don't you wonder what is >going to happen in 6-10 years with some of these hybrids? When the >battery packs are shot and the controls are flaking out, and the car is >not worth taking to the dealership/stealership for repair work at $100+ >per hour. Few shadetree mechanics are going to be able to debug them >or be able to afford to replace the parts. Most of the shadetree >mechanics I have known are not at all comfortable around high voltage >DC. I have similar, but lesser problems now with my Ford 2003 6.0 liter >diesel truck right now and it is fairly low tech in comparison. Some of >the engine sensors are > $300 each. A good price for rebuilt injectors >is $200 each - or $1600 for a set. Major repair estimates from the >dealership might was well be rounded out to the nearest $1K. > >I sometimes wonder if some of these hybrids aren't way over engineered..... > Its also a symptom of gov mandates, somebody has to pay the bill and that torpedo's anything like competition which would tend to hold prices closer to reality.
>Dave > >Jon Elson wrote: >> Stuart Stevenson wrote: >>> Andy, >>> This link doesn't say anything about starting by injection. I am sure >>> it is BMW that has the starting capability. >> >> The Honda Civic hybrid has some really interesting stuff going on. They >> can lock all the valves closed, cylinder by cylinder to control >> displacement. When it "auto stops" at a traffic light it closes all the >> valves so the engine >> doesn't shudder when it stops. You can't even hear it, but it takes at >> least 5 seconds >> to stop turning. I think they do the same on startup from the >> on-flywheel motor/gen. >> Whenever you take your foot off the gas it closes all the valves to >> minimize the >> engine drag. They also do stuff with variable valve timing so as to >> minimize use >> of the throttle plate. >> >> Jon >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>----- Return on Information: >> Google Enterprise Search pays you back >> Get the facts. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- Return on Information: >Google Enterprise Search pays you back >Get the facts. >http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev >_______________________________________________ >Emc-users mailing list >Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Kleeneness is next to Godelness. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
