Thanks Kent;
I guess my greatest disappointment is that was an AMD processor.
I have been routing for them from their beginning, and Zialog and
Motorola before that.
If IBM had not chose to Dumb Down their PC to stop the threat to
their computer line, we would have unimaginable computing capability
in a chips now.
The IBM move elevated the least capable chip set to dominance and
crippled the superior chip manufactures.
If the founder of Apple Computer had not been so anti industry (Commerce)
in the beginning, Motorola and his product would have reduced or stopped
the PC takeover. After that slow start Apple has been relegated to
"A Better Me To", while the world went about making the PC over to
their liking (some for work and most for fun).
I think you are totally correct, the industry has been hijacked for fun
instead of work.
Thanks again for helping try to resurrect a toy.
Heres hoping the D510MO get the job done.
Don
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Kent A. Reed <knbr...@erols.com> wrote:
> Don Stanley said, in part:
>
> > I was grudgingly coming to the same conclusion. I did some comparisons
> > today. I could not believe the fastest computers in the shop with
> minimum
> > graphics (the AMD Atahlon 64 4000+ we have trying to fix) only performs
> > slightly better than a Pentium IV 400MHZ running EMC2.
> >
> The trouble is, Don, despite various O/S-developers' attempts to hide
> the hardware, it simply is not true that, except for speed, all
> computers are kind of the same.
>
> For nearly a decade now, PC makers and their component suppliers have
> seen good profit margins in making two classes of PCs---media centers
> (which optimize for high throughput of audio and video with complex
> media-stream encoding/decoding requirements---think mpeg2, mpeg4,
> H.264,...) and game machines (which optimize for complex, detailed and
> fast changing computer-generated scenes including textures and the whole
> nine yards of graphics tricks---think DX8, DX9, DX10,...). In this same
> decade, electrical power consumption in the home and office has become a
> hot-button issue.
>
> The user's perception of the speed and responsiveness of these machines
> has almost nothing to do with the qualities we need in real-time
> control. The qualities we need for real-time control have been designed
> out of these machines almost inadvertently as other goals are being
> pursued with new, "improved" multi-core, multi-threading CPUs with their
> new, "improved" North and South Bridges, new, "improved" power
> management, and all the other hardware paraphernalia. Old, "un-improved"
> Pentiums end up looking very good when your foremost goal is consistent,
> low latency.
>
> When you look at the numbers of PCs and shrink-wrapped software packages
> that are shipped to consumers you realize that in comparison we
> constitute a market potential closely approximating zero. We don't
> generate any requirements worth considering in PC product planning. We
> just get to work with the result. Have you seen the Far Side cartoon of
> a frog with its tongue stuck to a jet plane that was flying over its
> lily pad? That's a metaphor for our situation.
>
> One might think that there's an opportunity here for an entrepreneur to
> build and sell EMC2-customized computers, but such a person would be a
> small-volume buyer at the mercy of fickle suppliers, and I suspect folks
> in the CNC marketplace like Jon Elson, Steve Stallings, and others can
> also recite chapter-and-verse about the burden of after-sales support
> for something this technical. The only way I could imagine making money
> is to build custom controllers that are sold as part of a complete
> machine-tool system with a high purchase price and high annual
> maintenance fees. Oh, wait, isn't that what ....
>
> I feel your pain and I know that trying to explain why you have it
> doesn't make it go away. A lot of us on this mail list and its companion
> developers list have been hoping/struggling/arguing to find a path
> forward that minimizes the pain. There's been little enough joy so far.
>
> On the positive side, once you get a platform that does function well
> with Linux/RTAI, then you have EMC2 and all that this implies.
>
> Regards,
> Kent
>
> PS - sorry, all, for my recent faux pas with my email subject lines.
> When it's been too long since my last cup of coffee, I tend to not to
> check closely enough before clicking "send".
>
>
>
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