On Sunday, January 23, 2011 07:58:18 am Erik Christiansen did opine:

> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 08:41:19AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> > I have been thinking about this too. There is a fair amount of
> > activity with DIY out-runner motors in the model airplane community.
> > Occasionally, they can get enough orders together to have a batch of
> > custom silicon steel laminations made. The bell, magnets, bearings,
> > hub and stator windings are easy enough for an individual to make.
> 
> A while ago, Model Engineering Workshop had an article on making
> outrunner BLDC motors. These were based on the rotor from something like
> a discarded drill. The windings were hacksawed at the ends, and peeled
> out. The commutator is also not needed, obviously. New windings on what
> is now the stator, and monster magnets inside the outrunner, plus new
> bearings, and you're off, at 10 to 20,000 RPM. The author just used
> model aircraft BLDC controllers, though.
> 
> There is no chance that I'd finish the project if I added motor building
> to the end of the row to hoe. (Too much else already started, and not
> yet finished. ;-)
> 
> > There is at least one person on this list that has an out-runner on
> > their mill spindle. Typically these motors don't have rotor sensors,
> > so adding Hall sensors will most likely be needed if one wants to
> > start the motor with a load.
> 
> These can presumably be optical instead, if that's what's in the
> junkbox, and this 120�/step encoder is enclosed, to keep it clean.
> 
> > I would really like to try to make an out-runner that caters to an
> > axis application.
> 
> In MEW, it was used as a high speed spindle. But being able to use the
> lathe spindle as a rotary axis would be very nice, with a milling head
> on the cross-slide. But that would take a hefty motor. (My mill-drill
> isn't worth converting, and too useful as a manual.)
> 
> Oh, now I remember. Some years ago I toyed with the idea of using a
> truck alternator as a BLDC motor. They seem to be common now, and this
> one is chewing about 130W, just flailing air:
> http://www.avagotech.com/docs/AV02-0188EN
> 
I don't think this is the link you intended? This is to a pdf brochure 
describing only the encoder.

> If mesa or pico have a controller which will drive e.g. a 24v 50A truck
> alternator as a BLDC, I think I'd take the easy way out, and just add
> some "hall" sensors.
> 
> Erik
> 
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