On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:35:10 PM Kent A. Reed did opine:

> On 4/12/2011 2:36 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > I had a link forwarded to me today, which may have a bearing on some
> > problems I am having with an unrelated linux install.
> > 
> > <http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken>
> > 
> > My emc install isn't broken in this manner as /usr is on /, but it
> > still throws 31 errors using that sample command line given.  I think
> > it may need further fine tuning.
> > 
> > But I know some of us, me included, have our own ideas about how a
> > disk should be partitioned, so I thought I'd pass the link on just so
> > the rest of you can check.
> > 
> > This pclos install has 61 such errors when exec'ing the sample command
> > line given in this link, and I find I have to completely reconfigure
> > kde4.6.2 every time I reboot.  Thats a right PIMA as you can imagine.
> > ;-)
> > 
> > I have gparted, ver 7.something, overhauling another drive for a
> > system move.
> 
> My snarky response is the old joke-
> 
>      Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
> 
>      Doctor: "So stop doing it."
> 
> My more serious response is, this problem is part and parcel with my
> long running concern that the world of Linux developers is become
> increasingly divorced from its roots. I understand how this particular
> problem has arisen, but I'm appalled to see them take such a
> corporate-manager position in response to their user-base complaints.

So am I, Kent.  This is not the linux I jumped head first into in '97 or 
'98.  As an old friend would say "Not by a hell of a long row of apple 
trees"

OTOH, bear in mind that a corporate attitude is, like the camel with his 
nose in the tent, going to prevail for the simple reason that its corporate 
that pays many of these developers salaries.

> This is the sort of guff I used to get from my
> IBM/Microsoft/DEC/HP/<your favorite here> sales and field-service staff
> back in the day.

And which I have bellered about from/at both DEC and MS.  There were 
several times when I gave them a piece of my mind that was so far gone it 
was, like the bad apple, spoiling the rest of the barrel.

> I suppose technically it is possible to create a /usr directory on the
> root partition and populate it with a core collection of programs so
> they are available early in booting and then merge the rest of /usr from
> another partition later on, but that's another PITA.
 
Potentially much bigger than the one I seem to be having.  I have 
considered setting up log, as a separate partition mounted to /var/log, but 
no one can tell me if when / goes read-only because something went tits 
down in the deep end of the pool, and /var was a dir on /, would log then 
be read-only too?  I dunno.

I can't reboot without using the reset button now, because /var is already 
unmounted when halt calls whatever is after swapoff -a, and halt can't get 
a lock, so the reboot is hung.  Its BS ok, but it sure doesn't raise my 
corn crops by the acre yield...

But, having been burnt by no logs on 2 crashes before, having /var as a dir 
on / (as fedora's installer demands) is simply not an option, I won't even 
discuss it.

> Regards,
> Kent

Regards, Gene

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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