I used Linux since 1995. I do not personally see the point of having /usr
mounted separately.

Igor

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:49 PM, gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 03:35:10 PM Kent A. Reed did opine:
>
> > On 4/12/2011 2:36 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > > I had a link forwarded to me today, which may have a bearing on some
> > > problems I am having with an unrelated linux install.
> > >
> > > <http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken>
> > >
> > > My emc install isn't broken in this manner as /usr is on /, but it
> > > still throws 31 errors using that sample command line given.  I think
> > > it may need further fine tuning.
> > >
> > > But I know some of us, me included, have our own ideas about how a
> > > disk should be partitioned, so I thought I'd pass the link on just so
> > > the rest of you can check.
> > >
> > > This pclos install has 61 such errors when exec'ing the sample command
> > > line given in this link, and I find I have to completely reconfigure
> > > kde4.6.2 every time I reboot.  Thats a right PIMA as you can imagine.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > I have gparted, ver 7.something, overhauling another drive for a
> > > system move.
> >
> > My snarky response is the old joke-
> >
> >      Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
> >
> >      Doctor: "So stop doing it."
> >
> > My more serious response is, this problem is part and parcel with my
> > long running concern that the world of Linux developers is become
> > increasingly divorced from its roots. I understand how this particular
> > problem has arisen, but I'm appalled to see them take such a
> > corporate-manager position in response to their user-base complaints.
>
> So am I, Kent.  This is not the linux I jumped head first into in '97 or
> '98.  As an old friend would say "Not by a hell of a long row of apple
> trees"
>
> OTOH, bear in mind that a corporate attitude is, like the camel with his
> nose in the tent, going to prevail for the simple reason that its corporate
> that pays many of these developers salaries.
>
> > This is the sort of guff I used to get from my
> > IBM/Microsoft/DEC/HP/<your favorite here> sales and field-service staff
> > back in the day.
>
> And which I have bellered about from/at both DEC and MS.  There were
> several times when I gave them a piece of my mind that was so far gone it
> was, like the bad apple, spoiling the rest of the barrel.
>
> > I suppose technically it is possible to create a /usr directory on the
> > root partition and populate it with a core collection of programs so
> > they are available early in booting and then merge the rest of /usr from
> > another partition later on, but that's another PITA.
>
> Potentially much bigger than the one I seem to be having.  I have
> considered setting up log, as a separate partition mounted to /var/log, but
> no one can tell me if when / goes read-only because something went tits
> down in the deep end of the pool, and /var was a dir on /, would log then
> be read-only too?  I dunno.
>
> I can't reboot without using the reset button now, because /var is already
> unmounted when halt calls whatever is after swapoff -a, and halt can't get
> a lock, so the reboot is hung.  Its BS ok, but it sure doesn't raise my
> corn crops by the acre yield...
>
> But, having been burnt by no logs on 2 crashes before, having /var as a dir
> on / (as fedora's installer demands) is simply not an option, I won't even
> discuss it.
>
> > Regards,
> > Kent
>
> Regards, Gene
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
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> Non-sequiturs make me eat lampshades.
>
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