On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:

> 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock <jes...@3dtopo.com>:
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
>> 
>>> 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock <jes...@3dtopo.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not 
>>>> through the parallel port....
>>> 
>>> I do not understand, what exactly is not clear to You :)
>>> AFAIK Gecko drives will need the encoder signal for them to function,
>>> so each encoder signal will have to be splitted/doubled/copied to both
>>> PC and Gecko drive.
>> 
>> Hi Viesturs,
>> 
>> Well OK, that was never explained to me. You were saying that perhaps no 
>> rewiring would be required, and Peter was saying that the encoders would be 
>> wired to the pins of the 5i22, but no one ever told me that they would have 
>> to be wired to *booth*.
>> 
>> I have stated this already, but it would have been immensely helpful if I 
>> could see a simple schematic. I am a bit surprised Peter or Mesa hasn't 
>> provided one.
> 
> When I joined this mailing list, one of the things I learned, is that
> proper formulation of question considerably increases the chance of
> receiving an answer :)
> Please, be as specific as possible, do not be afraid of sharing details.
> 
> For example, schematics of what exactly do You mean? How to split the
> encoder signal to feed in two devices - Gecko drive and PC? Or how
> exactly connect that "PC" signal to Mesa board?

I would like to see a diagram of how to connect the Geckos / encoders to the 
Mesa card.

> The first one might get tricky, just like Steve mentioned, and I also
> think (do not rely on my opinion as I am only beginner with
> electronics) that additional hardware will be needed for splitting the
> encoder signal.

I need a good understanding of things like this before I can feel comfortable 
with going ahead with the Mesa card. I am likely even more of a beginner.

> The second one is brain-dead easy - take GND of the incoming signal
> and connect to GND of appropriate gpio pin on Mesa card and the same
> for the signal lead - connect it to appropriate gpio input pin.

At this point, the Pico card is looking more appealing to me. Even though I 
would have to completely rewire everything, at least they have a schematic so I 
would have a clue what I was doing.

>>>> From the way You wrote Your first message I understand that You
>>> already have a working system with encoder signal going also to PC:
>>> 2012/4/6 Jeshua Lacock <jes...@3dtopo.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> My Z axis is about 10,000 lines per inch, so it uses up my available 
>>>> bandwidth really fast. Right now I have the Z's max speed set to a mere 3 
>>>> inches per sec. My Y is 24 inches per sec, and X is 10 inches per sec. 
>>>> That uses up my available 71khz.
>>>> 
>>>> So, I understand that something like Mesa's 4I30 4 channel quadrature 
>>>> counter card will allow me much more bandwidth to run my servos faster.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> What kind of "10,000 lines per inch" are You talking about, if that is
>>> not encoder signal? It could be also step signal, but encoders were
>>> the only thing discussed in that message...
>>> 
>>> Could You, please, expand on what exactly You have there? Where are
>>> encoders currently connected?
>> 
>> As I have stated, the encoders are currently connected to the Geckos.
> 
> Ok, great!
> Then could You, please, explain in a lot more detail, what is that
> 10000 lines per inch bandwidth You were talking about?
> The way I initially understood this: there are 10K pulses from encoder
> on 1 inch travel and exceeding the velocities, mentioned in Your first
> post, would simply exceed the LinuxCNC's capability to read them on
> parport.
> Since there are no encoder signals on parport, I see that I have been
> totally wrong.

I am pretty much a complete noob on this kind of stuff. Perhaps my 
understanding is completely wrong. All I know is I only have enough pulse 
bandwidth to run my servos quite slow. I thought this was based on how fast my 
computer can send pulses to the Geckos.


Best,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
<http://3DTOPO.com>
Phone: 208.462.4171


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