On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:12 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 20.01.13 02:42, Sven Wesley wrote: > > All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't > > need a pump. > > There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works > > flawlessly. > > > > There's a silicone/rubber plate model nowadays that you glue directly onto > > the oil pan that works pretty well too. Some guys use it to pre-heat the > > oil reservoir on hydraulic machines. I think the price is 50-70 Euro. > > That I can grok. In '72 we had an ex-Indian Army colonel teaching us > thermodynamics. He described how they started the diesel powered > armoured vehicles, up in the mountainous north of that country - by > lighting a fire under the belly plate. The petrol powered tanks were > easier to get going, apparently. (And lighting a fire under them was > hopefully a bit further down the list of safe things to do.) > > > -26 C right now... > > It. does. not. compute. > > (Here, you leave a shiny spanner in the sun for some minutes, and you'll > drop it with a yelp. There, you wouldn't be able to drop it, would you?) > > Erik > There are many ways of promoting starting in a diesel. Mine was a DD298 Herc off a 40 Kw gen set installed in a 3/4 T pickup.
a. heat the oil b. heat the water jacket c. heat the intake manifold d. massive .. 2X or more cables to the starter e. ether ... not a good idea. I used a 2250 W jacket heater on my diesel. It was positioned low enough so convection worked for circulation. It also heated the oil in the pan not by design but simply by conduction. I once started my diesel at +2 F with no aids. (elk hunting). A propane torch on the intake manifold worked pretty well down to about 25 F. or a bit lower. The water jacket approach never failed me but I never had to use it below -25 F. Gas rigs are probably best served by a warm battery and oil. Electronic ignition and fuel injection seems to have made things a lot easier. YMMV Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users