On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:12 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 20.01.13 02:42, Sven Wesley wrote:
> > All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't
> > need a pump.
> > There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works
> > flawlessly.
> > 
> > There's a silicone/rubber plate model nowadays that you glue directly onto
> > the oil pan that works pretty well too. Some guys use it to pre-heat the
> > oil reservoir on hydraulic machines. I think the price is 50-70 Euro.
> 
> That I can grok. In '72 we had an ex-Indian Army colonel teaching us
> thermodynamics. He described how they started the diesel powered
> armoured vehicles, up in the mountainous north of that country - by
> lighting a fire under the belly plate. The petrol powered tanks were
> easier to get going, apparently. (And lighting a fire under them was
> hopefully a bit further down the list of safe things to do.)
> 
> > -26 C right now...
> 
> It. does. not. compute.
> 
> (Here, you leave a shiny spanner in the sun for some minutes, and you'll
> drop it with a yelp. There, you wouldn't be able to drop it, would you?)
> 
> Erik
> 
There are many ways of promoting starting in a diesel. 
Mine was a DD298 Herc off a 40 Kw gen set installed in a 3/4 T pickup.

a. heat the oil
b. heat the water jacket
c. heat the intake manifold
d. massive .. 2X or more cables to the starter
e. ether ... not a good idea. 

I used a 2250 W jacket heater on my diesel. It was positioned low enough
so convection worked for circulation. It also heated the oil in the pan
not by design but simply by conduction. 

I once started my diesel at +2 F with no aids. (elk hunting).

A propane torch on the intake manifold worked pretty well down to about
25 F. or a bit lower. 
The water jacket approach never failed me but I never had to use it
below -25 F. 

Gas rigs are probably best served by a warm battery and oil. Electronic
ignition and fuel injection seems to have made things a lot easier. 

YMMV

Dave




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