On Friday 12 April 2013 00:56:36 Jon Elson did opine:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > And I never considered the iron loses Jon, but you are dead on.
> 
> Mariss Freimanis of Gecko describes some torture tests he did years ago
> and reported this.

Humm, now that you mention that, I read something similar on the net a few 
years agom from somebody at Gecko.  Could have been the same person I'd 
have to assume.
 
> >> I make affordable servo amps for brushless motors, and
> >> have one on my minimill.  You do need to get rotor position
> >> info from the motor, most small ones have Hall sensors that
> >> you connect to the servo amp.  I use 500 cycle/rev encoders
> >> on mine, that is quite satisfactory.
> >> 
> >> Jon
> > 
> > That also makes great sense as long as its economical enough to do.
> 
> The Gecko 201 series sells for $114, my brushless servo amp sells
> for $150, for 20 A at 120 V.

Which is 17 amps more than my lathe spindle has.  I wonder if that could 
make me a REAL variable speed spindle.  This one runs out of steam when the 
steel is above 5/8" in diameter.  Supposedly a 250 watt motor, older 7zx12.  
I'd like to take it up to shaving 1.75" to 2" stock.  Could that reverse 
w/o needing to toggle a 4pdt relay? 

> Not vastly more expensive than a
> good stepper drive.  Of course you need a PWM generator to run my
> servo amp, but then you need a hardware step generator to get
> full performance out of a microstepped stepper motor, too.

True, if you can find the voltage for the motors.  I hate paying 150-200 
for a big linear when I can cobble something up out of the surplus catalogs 
for 1/3rd of that.

Unforch, suitable transformers seem to be getting rarer as time goes by.

The gears are turning on that spindle idea though.  :)

> Jon

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