market for similar machine will be very crowd many -all machine tool will jump into it it is matter of moth not years last moth i check journal-- manufacturing news -- etc and it said that traup machine tool etc introduced first laser deposition machine etc
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Ralph Stirling < [email protected]> wrote: > The cost of the Mori Seiki additive system that was in the video you > are referring to depends on which Mori CNC machine the laser additive > system gets attached to. I don't think they have any plans for a retrofit > device. They have told me they are working on a program to get these > systems into universities "at cost". Based on the "at cost" price they > mentioned to me, I'd guess that the dealer price would be perhaps $750K. > > I would love to have one of those systems, but I'd also like to have a > more conventional metal powder bed type machine, which I believe can > make a more accurate part when you aren't (or can't) machine it to finish > size (which the Mori machine does). You might be able to make some > intricate > parts on the Mori by alternating buildup and machining many times, but I > think > there are still several useful classes of parts you couldn't make that way > but > could with the older SLS type processes. I got to see some truly amazing > parts > that SpaceX has made on their direct metal sintering system (which they use > to make production rocket motors). The Mori machine is the perfect > addition > to their lineup, but not the answer to every metal printing need. > > -- Ralph > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I bet they are still researching that kind of technology. The market > for an effective and accurate 3D steel/titanum/aluminum printer would be > huge. > That link to the laser additive/milling machine was impressive. I wonder > how close to a million $ that machine costs. > > Dave > > On 8/5/2014 4:39 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > Boeing St Louis was 3D printing titanium with auto feed tig over 10 years > > ago (experimentally). I don't believe they achieved acceptable results > for > > production parts. With their budget I would think they would have as > good a > > chance as anyone to succeed. Not trying to be a wet blanket but-----. > > On Aug 5, 2014 1:55 PM, "Bas de Bruijn" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 01 Aug 2014, at 13:21, andy pugh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> On 1 August 2014 10:35, Roland Jollivet <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2014/08/play/steel-sketch > >>> I can't help feeling that there must be reasons that the world isn't > >>> full of CNC MIG welders. It's a moderately obvious idea. Certainly my > >>> friends and I were discussing the possibility 10 years ago for making > >>> replacement parts for veteran vehicles. > >>> I seem to recall hearing that distortion and internal stresses are a > >>> big problem. (as is releasing the part from the base plate). > >> I second that, > >> normally one would make a part on a big slab of steel. Afterwards the > part > >> needs to be removed by wire-edm and annealing (before/after i don’t > know). > >> Welding is a profession and just welding at locations like 3D printing > has > >> too many pitfalls IMO. > >> > >> The link above is from a duch designer, and although it is a nice > testing > >> if something like this works I don’t think that welding is something > you’d > >> get to make tolerances, just because of the stresses, warp etc. Haven’t > >> seen a industrial 3D metal printer who works with welding. > >> > >> This is some > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s9IdZ2pI5dA > >> > >> Bas > >> > >>> The distortion issue can possibly be addressed by modifying the > >>> original model to compensate, and internal stresses by a > >>> post-manufacturing heat treatment. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> atp > >>> If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > >>> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto > >>> > >>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? 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