On 8/6/2015 11:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 06 August 2015 11:14:15 Dave Cole wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2015 10:12 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Question, since the motors can get quite warm, how do you fix a
>>> die-cast 1x1x2.5" box to a motor?  Most modern glues tend to come
>>> apart at higher temps.
>> I've used Epoxy to glue die cast boxes to Stepper motors with great
>> success.  Drill a hole in the back of the box to cover the hole in the
>> motor where the leads exit and glue it on.
>> I think I roughed up the surface of the box and the motor with a
>> sanding disk.
> Not the motors laminations I hope. That, with a sanding disk could lead
> to smearing of the metal and inter-lamination shorts and could cause
> some localized very high heating.  Gently hand sanding with a 320 sponge
> to remove _some_ of the paint might be tolerable though.
>
>> I think I used Devcon brand but  I think that JB Weld
>> would work as well.   The JB Weld has a filler in it that might help
>> bridge some gaps.   3M has some interesting epoxy called Scotch Weld
>> that also looks promising.
>>
>> Dave
> Devcon is the "Bondo" maker. Lots of "void" filler in that.  What I have
> on hand is several years old, leftover from repairing the bottom of my
> boat. And probably needs to go out with the trash.  But JB Weld sounds
> like a better idea.  I'll see if I can locate some as there's none in
> the toolbox ATM. I don't recall ever seeing the Scotch product locally,
> but haven't looked for it either.
>
> Thanks Dave.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Yep, laminations and all.  Didn't affect the motors at all.  I didn't 
grind them hard, just enough to take the paint off with the abrasive 
disk so the epoxy would have a good bite on the steel.
That was 3+ years ago and the machine is still going strong.  Non of the 
boxes have came off.    I tried to twist one box off after the epoxy set 
but it was firmly adhered.   Epoxy is handy stuff.
The Devcon I used didn't have any filler in it at all.  (I have filler I 
could have added, as I do fiberglass boat work, but it was not needed.)
I also waterproofed the motors via an epoxy coating over the entire 
motor (12 of them) so they could operate outside in the weather and I 
installed shaft seals.
They were then painted over the epoxy as well to protect the epoxy from 
UV rays.
A chinese company was basically doing the same thing, but they couldn't 
deliver the motors for 16+ weeks so I had to do the modifications myself 
to standard, off the shelf, Nema 34 motors.
The motors were oversized for the application and run at reduced current.
I would have rather not had to use the boxes, but we needed a junction 
box on the motor so we could junction a flexible cable at the motor with 
a waterproof cord grip.

Dave



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