The cheapest PLC that AD sells is the Click, the software is free but 
the programming cable is $50 so  for $120 you can get 8 inputs and 6 
outputs.... a 7i64 is 24 outputs and 24 inputs for $198 and you don't 
need a programming cable. ClassicLadder looks mighty good when you can 
see the bits and timers in a pyvcp window.

JT

On 9/15/2015 8:27 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote:
> Much as I like LinuxCNC, Mesa cards, and even Arduino's occasionally,
> I'd go straight to AutomationDirect and get an inexpensive PLC for this
> job.  It would already handle all the 24v I/O, have a very clean and complete
> ladder logic, with good state machine methods.
>
> -- Ralph
> ________________________________________
> From: Sven Wesley [svenne.d...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:12 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap
>
> 2015-09-15 14:16 GMT+02:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On 15 September 2015 at 13:03, Carsten Presser <c...@rstenpresser.de> wrote:
>>
>>> the big advantage of the mesa-boards is that they are well suited to
>>> drive relays and other kinds of devices.
>>> An Arduino or similar board only has TTL or CMOS IOs which need to get
>>> adapted to your actual IO voltages/currents.
>> Also, thinking about it, an Aduino Mega is no cheaper than a 7i90
>>
>> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=7i90&product_id=291
>> That has the same IO voltage problems as the Arduino, but plugs
>> straight in to LinuxCNC (EPP Parport) and realtime HAL.
>> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hm2_7i90.9.html
>>
>>
> Don't get me wrong, I like Mesa. A Mesa board is not cheaper than a Mega.
> You can order a clone on eBay for less
> <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-ATmega2560-16AU-Improved-version-CH340G-MEGA2560-R3-Board-For-Arduino-SWTG-/231616834408?hash=item35ed706b68>
> than
> half. I have a few of those and they work as expected. There are Arduino
> relay boards out there as well. I will get all the relays needed
> <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-8-Channel-5V-Relay-Module-Board-for-Arduino-PIC-AVR-MCU-DSP-ARM-UK-/151105724470>
> and the Arduino board, still for less money than one 7i90. But I prefer
> opto isolated heavy duty solid state relays for this instead of tiny
> mechanical relays on a small board. You should see the relay panel inside
> the machine, the relays are like bricks...
>
> I think your suggestion with the HAL/Arduino library will be the cheapest
> possible and more than good for this application, I will try it for sure!
> With some small tweaks it will be fine for a Mega board and I should have
> enough I/O.
> Thanks!
>
> /S
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