On Tuesday 07 March 2017 03:45:15 Chris Albertson wrote:

> Today almost all user controls are "tactile switches" they are kind of
> like micro switches that are soldered to a PCB and then there is a
> larger piece of plastic that the user presses.  All consumer
> electronics is made this way, car radios, TV sets, computers even cell
> phones.    They come in different sizes but even the "large" ones are
> tiny
>
Which gives me an idea.  There are also large numbers of rubber buttons 
with a conductive elastomer that when pushed puts a low enough R across 
two adjacent traces, easily low enough to pull the normal logic 1 of an 
input pullup, close enough to ground to be a logic 0. With at least 40 
kajillion of those around in car key fobs and tv remotes, I could cut a 
contact out of their pcbs, and use the button too.  Or just buy the 
ready made. I have a counterbore in the face of the panel thats about 
15.5mm's in diameter, and at least 4mm's deep, one is deeper because as 
usual, the 1/8" bit was walking out of the collet because those TTS 
holders aren't keyed, so they slip and limit the torque I can apply when 
tightening the collet nut. I do not have that problem if the bit is 
actually in an r8 chuck, but its unhandy to change too.

> Here is an example
> https://www.amazon.com/microtivity-IM206-6x6x6mm-Tact-Switch/dp/B004RX
>KWI6

Nice, and I can make them work, by making the pcb to hold them but even 
though I added another $35 worth of carbide tooling, they would only 
ship this item with my NEXT order over $25. I backed out and will find 
then elsewhere. As a lady friend of mine named JoAnn Dow would say, 
scrooooem. I'm going back to bed anyway.

> They use these, I think because no one today would design a product
> they requires hand soldering, The "tact switch" can be surface mounted
> and soldered  in a reflow oven.
>
> All I've seen are momentary contact and if a toggle is needed to do
> that in the software that monitors the switch.
>
> A few months ago, knowing I wanted to make a pendent controller I
> bought a bunch of different momentary connect push buttons from
> different eBay vendors.   The only way to find out if they are any
> good is to buy them. So I bought from a half dozen different vendors
>
> BTW I thought all of the Radio Shack stored were closed and the
> company was gone.   I guess not yet.
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > I bought what I thought were 3 momentary contact spst pushbutton at
> > the Bridgeport shack Saturday. I opened the plastic bag to measure
> > them and machine the holes in the apron to hold them Saturday night.
> >
> > Putting the thing back together slowly today, I wondered if my dvm
> > could show me which end was which on the led in the button but at
> > 1.7 volts, no, so I moved the probes to check the switch, pushed it
> > once, goes to zero ohms and stays there until I push it again!  No
> > place on the bag does it say alternate action. And I don't care how
> > gently you push it, no hint of an alternate action can be felt.
> >
> > And fleabay is no help, all are wrong mounting, everthing is nuts on
> > the backside of the panel, without a long enough of a thread to work
> > in a panel that despite the front being countersunk 5mm's, is still
> > 8+mm's thick. Ditto digikey, Newark-Element14, and Mouser. And no
> > one makes it easy to spec the desired diameter and mount. Somebody,
> > and it sure isn't going to be me, could spend weeks finding a front
> > of the panel, pushes into a 12mm hole to mount momentary contact
> > switch. I am not about to sit and read 40,000 pdf's just to find out
> > how big it is and how it mounts. I wouldn't mind a spring loaded to
> > off toggle, but everything I tried recently needed an extra 2" on
> > the handle to toggle it w/o cutting fingers on the bat handle. I've
> > dealt with pushbutton toggles before and they have uniformly been a
> > high rate of replacement items, the toggle gives up in <1000 pushes.
> >
> > Do I make brackets for minimicroswitches and machine my own buttons
> > to push the rollers?
> >
> > The whole world is on backorder, and until its not, we are not going
> > to make America Great again.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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