> > No not interested in any of the above more than possible what you write
> > about integration.
> >
> > That's fine, it takes a lot of study to move past experimentation with
> PID.  And the literature is full of dead ends. The question I have about
> putting the integrator at the model error is how that would drive a steady
> state positioning error to zero.  Seems like your measurement and model
> could be forced to agreement without driving the positioning error to
> zero.  Of course, I don't understand your system at all, so I could be
> wrong.  In general, putting integrators into a system adds instability
> because it's a marginally stable dynamic element.   Even if it does just
> remain an integrator in the closed loop system, there is always the issue
> of windup.
> Eric

The model go to zero without an integrator. Integrating error between what 
signal is supposed to be with output will make error between model and reality 
goto zero. I am not totally sure this already happen in some documents I read.

For a "dead beat" controller it will not make a difference but then gain is 
lowered as is probably always the case it will make a difference.

I have not yet been able to put together the theory and are not totally sure it 
have already been written down or if idea is bad.


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