STMBL amps are really quite cool....

Me playing with one as a spindle drive..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LAtx8o48jI

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:27 AM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday 09 April 2019 05:53:41 andy pugh wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 02:54, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> > > You also mentioned that the driver isn't available, is it still
> > > being (re)written?
> >
> > Hardware driver ( IRAM256-2067-A2 ).
>
> That does tend to drop a wrench in the gears. :(
>
> > The software side of things works
> > really well.
> > (plug the STMBL into a Mesa smart-serial port, velocity / position
> > command and feedback HAL pins appear automatically)
>
> Something  like the 7i76D does when plugged into a 5i25 with the right
> firmware loaded.  I am finding that works quite well once the power
> supply's for regular 5 volts and field power is rigged, along with a
> couple eurostrips for that power distribution. It has 32 inputs and 16
> outputs for utility use, and I'm up to around the 8th input and 3rd
> output so far, so there's all sorts of room for expansion yet. I've
> skipped the 1st 4 inputs because they can also do 8 bit a/d conversions.
> Who knows what I might come up with that uses those in the future once I
> have used this thing for a while.  Might even rig a keep my coffee warm
> accessory. :)
>
> Or a tool changer. I'll admit thats been wandering around in the back of
> my mind. I rather like the idea of the gator sockets on a carousel,
> driving the carousel with the mills motors to loosen and tighten the ER
> chuck on this spindle motor while locking the spindle by its double d
> flats with a solenoid powered wrench. Bigger carousel=tighter ER nuts.
> Some sort of a geneva drive to position the carousel to the next tool
> driven by a small windshield wiper motor, using its internal switch to
> count tool pocket positions. But gator sockets are getting rare, a fad
> thats fading? Properly timed regular sockets would even work better, 6
> pointers for long life. Maybe even machine the sockets right into the
> carousel disk. I can do that on the G0704 easily enough.
>
> But then how do I synch the spindle with them, which is probably why the
> hackaday version used gator sockets with their built in springs. Highly
> failure prone IMO. The only thing I can think of ATM is to take the
> minimum speed back out of the spindle driver and hit it with a second or
> so of 2hz to make it "find" the socket.
>
> I've never used the spindle orient function so no clue if that could be
> used with a vfd. That would obviously need a 1 slot/rev encoder, a
> needless bit of complexity.
>
> Problem to be solved by experimentation. I can't see the mechanical
> complexity of vertically spring loaded sockets, which is what the gators
> are in effect. Ideally, a signal from the vfd that a locked rotor has
> occurred, stop the descent, at which point give it a short burst in the
> other direction to free it up in case its wedged, and continue lowering
> the tool into the empty socket. Complicate the control to simplicate the
> mechanics should be the plan. Another question TB answered is how much
> room below the tool should a second disk be put to stop it from
> completely dropping the tool. This could be used to establish a
> consistent Z offset. I can also see a need to rehome the XY after a tool
> change in case a motor looses a few steps tightening the nut.
>
> See what happens when i let my imagination out to play w/o a chaperone?
> And I'm still on my first cup. :) But the idea is to spread potentially
> usefull ideas.  My TANSTAAFL contribution if its usable to anyone.
>
> > Unfortunately without the power driver IC that is all that happens, no
> > motors turn. I guess you could use the analogue inputs and digital
> > outputs for something ;-)
>
> And whats the suggested workaround?
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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