Can someone define a good way to test the keypad scan signals? I put a scope on 
a circuit and it appears that the signals stands out clearly from the noise. I 
don’t know what the switch thresholds are so the noise could still be enough to 
cause issues. Setting the scope trigger voltage to about 1/3 of the scan 
voltage causes it to trigger on noise.

Should I be doing anything to condition the keypad lines? Pullup resistors are 
internal, so I  connected them directly to the 7i73.

Could unused pins be an issue?


> On Aug 7, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> 
> On Friday 07 August 2020 14:07:04 Thaddeus Waldner wrote:
> 
>> I finally got to do a little troubleshooting and here’s what I found:
>> 
>> Key response on the keypad is never as fast as the on-screen UI but it
>> is consistent. I’m guessing there’s about a 100-300 ms delay but
>> that’s just a guess. Could this delay be due to the fact that this is
>> a scanning keypad? What is the scan rate on
>> 
>> Once the inverter starts, I get a LOT of noise on the SmartSerial
>> lines. The noise voltage is around 4v  as measured from the 7i73
>> ground but it spikes to higher than that. Frequency is about 40khz but
>> it’s not consistent.
> 
> Check the invertor for a ground that does not go directly to that single 
> bolt or buss bar I preach about. If its connected to that bolt, lift it 
> and see if its still grounded someplace else, and isolate it from that 
> unwanted ground. Then hook it back up to the common bolt.  The static 
> ground line to the invertors PSU should go only to this bolt. The static 
> ground in the power cord should go to this bolt.  But only once if there 
> are more than one power cord.
> 
> In rare cases, the moving parts of the machine, such as the table and Z 
> sled or knee should be jumpered to the machine frame, and that frame 
> connected to this common bolt. Well oiled moving ways are not that great 
> an ohmic connection if actively moving on a film of oil.
> 
>> The noise on the 5v power supply line to the 7i73 is minimal. The 7i73
>> and all its connected switches are grounded only through the board’s
>> connection to the 7i96 board.
>> 
>> Would a shielded ethernet cable help?
> 
> You could try it, but I'd have doubts. Shielding only grounded at one 
> end. Both make a ground loop you don't need or want.
>> 
> 
> IHTH.
> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 9:17 AM, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 15:15, Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com> 
> wrote:
>>>> Also even with default sserial error management you could only have
>>>> 10 servo thread cycles (10 ms with a 1 ms servo thread) of delay
>>>> due to failed transactions before a sserial error popup would
>>>> occur.
>>> 
>>> Maybe noise on the keyboard itself? Is the keycode pin a single
>>> clean transition?
>>> 
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