On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:02 -0600, R C wrote: > On 6/29/21 2:53 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 14:32 -0600, R C wrote: > > > On 6/29/21 2:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 13:42 -0600, R C wrote: > > > > > On 6/29/21 11:09 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > > > The whole purpose of a CoC is telling people how to behave > > > > > > with > > > > > > respect > > > > > > to each other. Basically you are free to think as you will > > > > > > provided > > > > > > that you act as the CoC says. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > and that is why it is inappropriate, and useless, there is no > > > > > way > > > > > you > > > > > can predict how/what offends people (and nowadays. Creating > > > > > rules > > > > > for > > > > > what/how/when and to whom what can be said, well, there are > > > > > countries > > > > > where you can happily follow those rules. > > > > This is what I think: > > > > > > > > The point of a CoC is to tell people that the expected behavior > > > > is > > > > to > > > > act kindly with respect to each other, and the CoC must foresee > > > > and > > > > provide means to resolve any controvercies that may arise, and > > > > do > > > > this > > > > kindly as much as possible in order to reestablish the > > > > community > > > > aggregation and mutual respect. > > > right, most normal/decent people know that is expected behavior, > > > so > > > it > > > is pointless to re-iterate, and mosyly turns into something > > > manipulative. > > > > > > > I don't understand why there is so much friction on adopting a > > > > CoC, > > > > the > > > > vast majority of open source projects around the world has a > > > > CoC > > > > which > > > > is created, reviewed and accepted by community members. > > > Because it is pointless. There still has not been given an > > > urgent > > > reason for doing this kinda left-ish thing. > > > > > > > > > I make a point of that all the time, also at work, where they > > > have > > > several of these things. > > > > > > > > > Reason? Oh an upper management person once said it was needed > > > "because > > > everyone deserves to be respected, and by the end of the day can > > > go > > > home > > > being happy they accomplished something" > > > > > > I questioned him "Why?" .. except for a lot of "uh"-s no real > > > answer. > > > Of course not, because there are no reasons to do that.. it's > > > management porn. > > > > > > > > > > The only point I can make is that we need a community revision > > > > and > > > > voting of the CoC. > > > why? seriously, make a pressing point of why. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Ron > > > > I cannot comment on what you do at work. However this is how things > > work in a human society, we need to state very clearly what are the > > leadership actions to do in case controvercies need to be resolved, > > and > > state what is expected behavior and unacceptable behavior from > > community members, so that everybody knows that staying in the > > community involves some kind of mental and behavioral engagement. > > This > > is necessary to avoid irrimediable conflicts that can lead to > > destruction of the community. > > > > I'm happy to see that LinuxCNC community has survived so long > > without a > > CoC. That said every community needs a CoC mostly as an assurance > > to > > external people that they can join the community without fear. > > You still didn't say why, except for a bunch of blabla leadership, > sounds like it has nothing to do with neither linux, nor CNC. > > > again, eccept for an evasive and dumb answer, there is still no > why... > let me guess, you don't really have one other then a controlling > vague one.
The why is evident, we don't live in a ruleless world, even nature and animal groups have their survival rules. It is a question of survival of the community as a cohesive group. _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
