On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:17 -0600, R C wrote:
> On 6/29/21 3:07 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:45 -0500, Bari wrote:
> > > On 6/29/21 3:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 13:42 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > > > On 6/29/21 11:09 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> > > > > > The whole purpose of a CoC is telling people how to behave
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > respect
> > > > > > to each other. Basically you are free to think as you will
> > > > > > provided
> > > > > > that you act as the CoC says.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > 
> > > > > and that is why it is inappropriate, and useless, there is no
> > > > > way
> > > > > you
> > > > > can predict how/what  offends people (and nowadays. Creating
> > > > > rules
> > > > > for
> > > > > what/how/when and to whom what can be said, well, there are
> > > > > countries
> > > > > where you can happily follow those rules.
> > > > This is what I think:
> > > > 
> > > > The point of a CoC is to tell people that the expected behavior
> > > > is
> > > > to
> > > > act kindly with respect to each other, and the CoC must foresee
> > > > and
> > > > provide means to resolve any controvercies that may arise, and
> > > > do
> > > > this
> > > > kindly as much as possible in order to reestablish the
> > > > community
> > > > aggregation and mutual respect.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't understand why there is so much friction on adopting a
> > > > CoC,
> > > > the
> > > > vast majority of open source projects around the world has a
> > > > CoC
> > > > which
> > > > is created, reviewed and accepted by community members.
> > > > 
> > > > The only point I can make is that we need a community revision
> > > > and
> > > > voting of the CoC.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > 
> > > The problem is with what is perceived as acceptable and by whom.
> > > Different people perceive things differently based on their
> > > background,
> > > experiences, education, parenting, intelligence, age,
> > > environment,
> > > country they live in, etc. etc.
> > > 
> > > Another thing to consider is what is LinuxCNC? What is the board
> > > of
> > > directors? is this a democracy or a dictatorship or something
> > > else?
> > 
> > It is incredible that after so many years those questions are still
> > open. They should have been resolved many years ago, when the
> > community
> > was born.
> > 
> > > Who
> > > decides which persons that this applies to? Users, persons in
> > > IRC,
> > > developers that wish to have their code included in the main
> > > distribution, forum posters, etc who is this for and what is the
> > > real
> > > reason for this?
> > > 
> > > It is a slippery slope.
> > Usually the leadership is voted and elected by members, and the CoC
> > should be applied to *everything* involving the community, so
> > Users,
> > persons in IRC, developers that wish to have their code included in
> > the
> > main distribution, forum posters, visitors, external experts, and
> > this
> > is not an exhaustive list.
> 
> You made a spelling mistake,  it is not spelled "leadership",  it 
> typically is spelled "corrupt politicians"  or "business major with
> a 
> bloated ego"
> 
> 
> If it was leadership,  you'd go do something ..  and the rest would
> be 
> following behind you,  which doesn't seem to be the case.



But I do not see any corrupted politician or business major with a
bloated ego in the LinuxCNC community.

Can I ask you to avoid writing to me privately please?






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