On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote: > On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: > > > On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: > > > > > I missed the beginning as well, but I think something > > > > > happened > > > > > that > > > > > was > > > > > not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ? > > > > > Perhaps it was an attempt to prevent a future issue!? > > > > > > > > > > I really have no idea. > > > > > > > > > > No one has ever explained why it was written or why it is > > > > > important. I > > > > > asked more than once .... and the response was "crickets". > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I don't see the need for it. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not big into making up or accepting additional rules when > > > > > they > > > > > can't > > > > > be explained. > > > > > You saw the results of this "non-event". It wasn't > > > > > pretty. If > > > > > someone thinks this is needed. Pipe up and say why. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I think we need to remember that LCNC is a > > > > > "cooperative > > > > > effort" > > > > > between a number of very intelligent folks. > > > > I only write here occasionally, and really it isn't a big deal > > > > to > > > > follow the CoC, it even might learn something to the malicious > > > > who > > > > thinks this list is a good place to do trolling: don't even > > > > start. > > > > > > > > Sincerely there is very intelligent people here, but in some > > > > cases > > > > intelligence falls short when it comes to abide to an > > > > objectively > > > > tiny > > > > set of additional rules for the common good. > > > Rules about conduct are never objective, they are created by > > > someone > > > for > > > others, and for a purpose that that CoC writer prefers, and > > > therefor > > > not objective, but subjective. Hence the ongoing 'class S' storm > > > you > > > see going on here, and rightfully so. > > You are again misunderstanding my words: I didn't say that rules > > are > > objective, I said it is an objectively tiny set of rules (compared > > to > > some other CoC like the Sourceforge one and the W3C one). > > And yes, who runs the project has admin rights and owns it in > > practice, > > and has the right to issue rules for others to follow. > > You need to meticulously read what you just sent, possibly more than > just once, but please use a dictionary when you do, too look up the > meaning of words like "objective".. I had to learn English too, it > is > my second language, I know it can be hard at times. > > (although I actually have the impression that you're just spewing > nonsense, and when someone calls you on it, you claim them to be too > dumb and not actually understand what it is you said. That is not > how > language works.).
I wrote exactly the thing I had in mind and it is absolutely the right thing, the meaning is the same in italian and in english: https://context.reverso.net/traduzione/italiano-inglese/Oggettivamente " Oggettivamente è giustificabile, è corretto. -> Objectively this is justifiable, it is correct. Oggettivamente parlando, - ha un aspetto più virile. -> Objectively speaking, he does appear more virile. " > > > > > > > > > Being "cooperative" and "helpful" is a personal > > > > > decision. It > > > > > doesn't > > > > > take much to cause people to "not be" cooperative and > > > > > helpful! > > > > > Tread lightly! > > > > > > > > > > I think that LCNC has been a huge success and has helped > > > > > humanity. > > > > > Try and find something else you have done that has "helped > > > > > humanity". > > > > > That is BIG. > > > > > > > > > > Lets not blow it. > > > > > > > > > > Again, I want to thank those folks on this list who have > > > > > helped > > > > > me > > > > > and > > > > > others with LCNC. > > > > > I really appreciate your efforts! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/17/2021 1:28 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > > > > > WOW - I missed it all! > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife and I left 24 Jun 2021 and returned 07 Jul 2021. I > > > > > > didn't > > > > > > check > > > > > > emails until we returned. > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to me a lot of people confuse the right to comment > > > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > obligation to comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > The COC appears to be a compilation of what everyone on the > > > > > > list > > > > > > has been > > > > > > doing all along. Therefore, Jeff's comment, "a non-event", > > > > > > is > > > > > > appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what triggered the need for putting in the > > > > > > work to > > > > > > develop the > > > > > > COC but I trust Jeff has identified the need. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know who/what is going to be the COC sheriff but it > > > > > > will be > > > > > > a > > > > > > thankless job. Even more thankless than general > > > > > > development. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my hope the job of COC sheriff is somewhat less > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > than the > > > > > > maytag repairman job. > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you Jeff for your attention and work > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > I was encouraged when I saw Valerio comment about making a > > > > > > project. > > > > > > He is > > > > > > thinking about getting back to work. We should follow his > > > > > > thought > > > > > > pattern. > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > My only negative feeling was when it was suggested a > > > > > > democratic > > > > > > vote would > > > > > > fix it. Democracy is mob rule - nothing else. It is one > > > > > > hundred > > > > > > people > > > > > > walking into a restaurant and waiting until 51 have agreed > > > > > > on > > > > > > what > > > > > > to eat > > > > > > and then everyone has to eat what the 51 decided everyone > > > > > > needs > > > > > > to > > > > > > eat. Not > > > > > > pleasant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:48 AM Mark Wendt < > > > > > > wendt.m...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:07 AM andy pugh < > > > > > > > bodge...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:55, Mark < > > > > > > > > wendt.m...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bullshit. It's a sign that someone(s) wants to > > > > > > > > > create > > > > > > > > > political > > > > > > > > > division and strife > > > > > > > > No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was > > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > Jeff's > > > > > > > intention. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > atp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may not have been his intention but it certainly has > > > > > > > turned > > > > > > > the group > > > > > > > into just that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > > > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users