On 7/18/21 9:52 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote:
On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote:
On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote:
I missed the beginning as well, but I think something
happened
that
was
not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ?
Perhaps it was an attempt to prevent a future issue!?
I really have no idea.
No one has ever explained why it was written or why it is
important. I
asked more than once .... and the response was "crickets".
Personally, I don't see the need for it.
I'm not big into making up or accepting additional rules when
they
can't
be explained.
You saw the results of this "non-event". It wasn't
pretty. If
someone thinks this is needed. Pipe up and say why.
Anyway, I think we need to remember that LCNC is a
"cooperative
effort"
between a number of very intelligent folks.
I only write here occasionally, and really it isn't a big deal
to
follow the CoC, it even might learn something to the malicious
who
thinks this list is a good place to do trolling: don't even
start.
Sincerely there is very intelligent people here, but in some
cases
intelligence falls short when it comes to abide to an
objectively
tiny
set of additional rules for the common good.
Rules about conduct are never objective, they are created by
someone
for
others, and for a purpose that that CoC writer prefers, and
therefor
not objective, but subjective. Hence the ongoing 'class S' storm
you
see going on here, and rightfully so.
You are again misunderstanding my words: I didn't say that rules
are
objective, I said it is an objectively tiny set of rules (compared
to
some other CoC like the Sourceforge one and the W3C one).
And yes, who runs the project has admin rights and owns it in
practice,
and has the right to issue rules for others to follow.
You need to meticulously read what you just sent, possibly more than
just once, but please use a dictionary when you do, too look up the
meaning of words like "objective".. I had to learn English too, it
is
my second language, I know it can be hard at times.
(although I actually have the impression that you're just spewing
nonsense, and when someone calls you on it, you claim them to be too
dumb and not actually understand what it is you said. That is not
how
language works.).
The CoC is just an application of real world practices: it is like you
went visiting me at home, not only you have to follow the law, in
addition you have to follow my rules if you want to stay, and if you
start a flame against my rules it is sure that you cannot stay, because
I own the home and have the right to kick you out.
seriously, you need to try and read what it is you're trying to say,
before you hit the send button, because again, this is again just
nonsense, ... word salad.
Being "cooperative" and "helpful" is a personal
decision. It
doesn't
take much to cause people to "not be" cooperative and
helpful!
Tread lightly!
I think that LCNC has been a huge success and has helped
humanity.
Try and find something else you have done that has "helped
humanity".
That is BIG.
Lets not blow it.
Again, I want to thank those folks on this list who have
helped
me
and
others with LCNC.
I really appreciate your efforts! :-)
Dave
On 7/17/2021 1:28 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
WOW - I missed it all!
My wife and I left 24 Jun 2021 and returned 07 Jul 2021. I
didn't
check
emails until we returned.
Seems to me a lot of people confuse the right to comment
with
the
obligation to comment.
The COC appears to be a compilation of what everyone on the
list
has been
doing all along. Therefore, Jeff's comment, "a non-event",
is
appropriate.
I don't know what triggered the need for putting in the
work to
develop the
COC but I trust Jeff has identified the need.
I don't know who/what is going to be the COC sheriff but it
will be
a
thankless job. Even more thankless than general
development. :)
It is my hope the job of COC sheriff is somewhat less
interesting
than the
maytag repairman job.
thank you Jeff for your attention and work
Stuart
I was encouraged when I saw Valerio comment about making a
project.
He is
thinking about getting back to work. We should follow his
thought
pattern.
:)
My only negative feeling was when it was suggested a
democratic
vote would
fix it. Democracy is mob rule - nothing else. It is one
hundred
people
walking into a restaurant and waiting until 51 have agreed
on
what
to eat
and then everyone has to eat what the 51 decided everyone
needs
to
eat. Not
pleasant.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:48 AM Mark Wendt <
wendt.m...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:07 AM andy pugh <
bodge...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:55, Mark <
wendt.m...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Bullshit. It's a sign that someone(s) wants to
create
political
division and strife
No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was
never
Jeff's
intention.
--
atp
It may not have been his intention but it certainly has
turned
the group
into just that.
Mark
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