On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 22:07 -0600, R C wrote:
> On 7/18/21 9:58 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > > > On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote:
> > > > > > > I missed the beginning as well, but I think something
> > > > > > > happened
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ?
> > > > > > > Perhaps it was an attempt to prevent a future issue!?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I really have no idea.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No one has ever explained why it was written or why it is
> > > > > > > important.   I
> > > > > > > asked more than once .... and the response was
> > > > > > > "crickets".
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Personally, I don't see the need for it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm not big into making up or accepting additional rules
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > be explained.
> > > > > > > You saw the results of this "non-event".   It wasn't
> > > > > > > pretty.   If
> > > > > > > someone thinks this is needed.  Pipe up and say why.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Anyway, I think we need to remember that LCNC is a
> > > > > > > "cooperative
> > > > > > > effort"
> > > > > > > between a number of very intelligent folks.
> > > > > > I only write here occasionally, and really it isn't a big
> > > > > > deal
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > follow the CoC, it even might learn something to the
> > > > > > malicious
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > thinks this list is a good place to do trolling: don't even
> > > > > > start.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sincerely there is very intelligent people here, but in
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > cases
> > > > > > intelligence falls short when it comes to abide to an
> > > > > > objectively
> > > > > > tiny
> > > > > > set of additional rules for the common good.
> > > > > Rules about conduct are never objective, they are created by
> > > > > someone
> > > > > for
> > > > > others, and for a purpose that that  CoC writer prefers, and
> > > > > therefor
> > > > > not objective, but subjective.  Hence the ongoing 'class S'
> > > > > storm
> > > > > you
> > > > > see going on here, and rightfully so.
> > > > You are again misunderstanding my words: I didn't say that
> > > > rules
> > > > are
> > > > objective, I said it is an objectively tiny set of rules
> > > > (compared
> > > > to
> > > > some other CoC like the Sourceforge one and the W3C one).
> > > > And yes, who runs the project has admin rights and owns it in
> > > > practice,
> > > > and has the right to issue rules for others to follow.
> > > You need to meticulously read what you just sent, possibly more
> > > than
> > > just once,  but please use a dictionary when you do, too look up
> > > the
> > > meaning of words like "objective"..   I had to learn English
> > > too,  it
> > > is
> > > my second language,  I know it can be hard at times.
> > > 
> > > (although I  actually have the impression that you're just
> > > spewing
> > > nonsense, and when someone calls you on it, you claim them to be
> > > too
> > > dumb and not actually understand what it is you said. That is not
> > > how
> > > language works.).
> > I wrote exactly the thing I had in mind and it is absolutely the
> > right
> > thing, the meaning is the same in italian and in english:
> 
> So it's nonsense in both languages...    glad you figured that out by
> now.


It is nonsense only for you, for me that means you are functional
illiterate.

Enought said, back to work. My 3D printer is waiting.



> 
> 
> > https://context.reverso.net/traduzione/italiano-inglese/Oggettivamente
> > 
> > "
> > Oggettivamente è giustificabile, è corretto. -> Objectively this is
> > justifiable, it is correct.
> > 
> > Oggettivamente parlando, - ha un aspetto più virile. -> Objectively
> > speaking, he does appear more virile.
> > "
> > 
> > 
> > > > > > > Being "cooperative" and "helpful" is a personal
> > > > > > > decision.   It
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > take much to cause people to "not be" cooperative and
> > > > > > > helpful!
> > > > > > > Tread lightly!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think that LCNC has been a huge success and has helped
> > > > > > > humanity.
> > > > > > > Try and find something else you have done that has
> > > > > > > "helped
> > > > > > > humanity".
> > > > > > > That is BIG.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Lets not blow it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Again, I want to thank those folks on this list who have
> > > > > > > helped
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > others with LCNC.
> > > > > > > I really appreciate your efforts!  :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 7/17/2021 1:28 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> > > > > > > > WOW - I missed it all!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > My wife and I left 24 Jun 2021 and returned 07 Jul
> > > > > > > > 2021. I
> > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > check
> > > > > > > > emails until we returned.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Seems to me a lot of people confuse the right to
> > > > > > > > comment
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > obligation to comment.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The COC appears to be a compilation of what everyone on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > > has been
> > > > > > > > doing all along. Therefore, Jeff's comment, "a non-
> > > > > > > > event",
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > appropriate.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I don't know what triggered the need for putting in the
> > > > > > > > work to
> > > > > > > > develop the
> > > > > > > > COC but I trust Jeff has identified the need.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I don't know who/what is going to be the COC sheriff
> > > > > > > > but it
> > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > thankless job. Even more thankless than general
> > > > > > > > development. :)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It is my hope the job of COC sheriff is somewhat less
> > > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > > than the
> > > > > > > > maytag repairman job.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > thank you Jeff for your attention and work
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Stuart
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I was encouraged when I saw Valerio comment about
> > > > > > > > making a
> > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > He is
> > > > > > > > thinking about getting back to work. We should follow
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > pattern.
> > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > My only negative feeling was when it was suggested a
> > > > > > > > democratic
> > > > > > > > vote would
> > > > > > > > fix it. Democracy is mob rule - nothing else. It is one
> > > > > > > > hundred
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > walking into a restaurant and waiting until 51 have
> > > > > > > > agreed
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > to eat
> > > > > > > > and then everyone has to eat what the 51 decided
> > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > eat. Not
> > > > > > > > pleasant.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:48 AM Mark Wendt <
> > > > > > > > wendt.m...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:07 AM andy pugh <
> > > > > > > > > bodge...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:55, Mark <
> > > > > > > > > > wendt.m...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Bullshit.  It's a sign that someone(s) wants to
> > > > > > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > > > > political
> > > > > > > > > > > division and strife
> > > > > > > > > > No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was
> > > > > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > > > Jeff's
> > > > > > > > > intention.
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > atp
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It may not have been his intention but it certainly
> > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > turned
> > > > > > > > > the group
> > > > > > > > > into just that.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > > > 
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