The Step file I sent is fully functional when imported to Fusion360.

There are a few changes I would make too.  If the problem is the cup
flexing, Maybe try some accordion pleats, a few broad sine-like curves in
the cup.  Why are the wals cylindrical?

Another idea is to remove the bottom from the cup so it is just a tube and
not a cup then cut a square wave patters on the bottom and drive ot with a
disk with an interlocking pattern. Then there is no more bending on the
booton radius.








On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 3:38 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:

> Chris sent me a zip with the project step file.  This one I was able to
> load and save.  The individual part files were not editable.
>
> However, once I saved that imported step file as the entire assembly
> AlibreCAD saved it as a series of assemblies and part files;  88 in all
> including the original step file.  The assembly does not have any
> constraints so once you pull the pieces apart it's hard to put them back
> without adding in constraints.
>
> Anyway, these are editable.
> If anyone wants a zip with the .AD_ASM and .AD_PRT files I'll pass it on.
> At this point you load Harmonic Drive Project v45.AD_ASM and can edit the
> individual part files although they can't be saved from within the part
> editing.  Only inside the assembly.
>
> But separately they can be edited.  Probably a bug in Alibre.  They don't
> call it Read Only or Read/Write but locked and unlocked.
>
> John
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: December-01-21 2:59 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive
> >
> > If it is too much work, ask me and I will re-export the entire model from
> > Fusion360 to STEP, and I'm sure there will be no read-only as Fusion360
> > does not do that.
> >
> > I also want to re-organize it, like at least placing all the nuts and
> > screws in a "hardware" component so that can all be turned off and on at
> > once rather than doing 100+ clicks
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 2:53 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > How about.  Now it works.  I can load the assembly but the embedded
> read
> > > only characteristic is just plain rude.  So the work around with
> Alibre is
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > > Import the .step file.
> > > Select one of the elements like "Housing"  and right click to open in
> > > separate window.
> > > Doesn't matter what you do to the drawing you can't change it but it
> can
> > > be exported as an .IGES file.
> > > So now I have "Housing.igs" and can import that and then save as the
> > > "Housing.AD_PRT"
> > >
> > > It's still a clumsy step file type of import that doesn't have the same
> > > ease of use editing that parts built with Alibre have but at least it's
> > > editable and some of the very poor features of the design can be
> changed.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: December-01-21 1:18 PM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the link.  But I noticed there was a STEP file provided.
> > >  I've
> > > > imported it into Fusion360.  It imports well.  No need to convert
> the STL
> > > > files.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a view-only public link to the Fusion360 model.
> > > > https://a360.co/3phrfI6
> > > > I've made no edits to the above. simply did the import.
> > > >
> > > > The model could use some reorganization.  It is just a linear list of
> > > parts
> > > > with no hierarchy but unlike STL files the exact shape of the parts
> is
> > > > preserved.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:33 AM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > This was my starting point.  The step files aren't available in
> that
> > > > > link.  The STLs have been converted although some badly.  Still
> > > working on
> > > > > getting better step files from STL.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://howtomechatronics.com/how-it-works/what-is-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive-a-perfect-gear-set-for-robotics-
> > > > applications/
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have the larger 47x35 bearings yet so I subbed in a 47x20.
> > > > > Without two bearings there will always be a bit of wiggle there.  I
> > > found
> > > > > only two of the 5x16x5 in my random bearing box.  I have 10 of
> those on
> > > > > order too.  For now I recreated the wave generator to just use two
> > > > > bearings.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a tube of 11mm bearings that when doubled up (or maybe not)
> can
> > > be
> > > > > put closer together creating less of a point source bend that the
> > > single
> > > > > bearing does.  That might fatigue the plastic less.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also turning the hub that goes through the bearing out of metal and
> > > making
> > > > > the companion mounting plate for the cup out of metal would allow a
> > > coupler
> > > > > shaft through from the wave generator disk to the centerline of the
> > > drive
> > > > > bearing.  This would likely also clean up any wobble from thin
> printed
> > > > > plastic.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: December-01-21 9:13 AM
> > > > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like I'm finding this thread late.  Where are the design
> files
> > > for
> > > > > > this harmonic drive?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:22 PM John Dammeyer <
> > > jo...@autoartisans.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've added a photo.
> > > > > > > www.autoartisans.com/harmonicdrive/HarmonicDrive-8.jpg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The new wave generator pieces puts the bearings 1mm further
> out.
> > > Was
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > able to bring it a bit closer to the motor so the bearings now
> sit
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > middle of the fixed spline gear.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris Albertson
> > > > > > Redondo Beach, California
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