Yikes. Versions? I thought there was only one version. Outer gears are the same OD, have different ID. Pinion gears are different diameters due to extra tooth. cid:image001.png@01D7F19F.CBD7A380 I've printed one set of 2 pinions. And one outer gear (BLUE -- Cut1 with 1.25 and 100T). Still to print is the other Gear (GREEN, -- Cut001 with 1.25 and 101T) and 2 more pinion sets. I've created an input shaft. I'm guessing we hold the 100T gear fixed and the 101T is the one turning at the 67:1 ratio when turning the input shaft (pinion cluster). How do I know which version I'm printing? And more important, how did you create the module tooth shape? Under "Part Design/Involute Gear"? I found this tutorial which goes through the nitty gritty. https://www.fictiv.com/articles/creating-involute-gears-in-cad John > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Zuercher [mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com] > Sent: December-15-21 6:32 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > No reason, just picked a number, and that looked good to me. > > Which version are you trying to print? The ones with equal ring diameters and > fudged module, or the one with proper module but > differing diameters? > > Curious to hear how it works, and how strong it may or may not be. > > Todd Zuercher > P. Graham Dunn Inc. > 630 Henry Street > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Dammeyer < <mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com> jo...@autoartisans.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:53 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' < > <mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > I've opened it in FreeCAD. Exported the pieces as STEP files and imported > those into AlibreCAD. I added holes in each pinion gear > so that they can be screwed together. I've sliced it to sit on a 6 layer > raft so that the teeth on the glass sided aren't all distorted. > > Time to print will be about 3 hours. Any reason why they are 20mm thick? > Just for strength/power? > > The two outer ring gears got 12 holes on a 70mm radius. For some reason > AlibreCAD shows the 12 holes on the sketch but the > extrude cut leaves out a couple. I've posted a help request on that. > > The ring gears (0.3 mm layers) with a raft take over 5 hours, over 4 without > the raft. > > I've started printing the two pinions. See what they look like. Then decide > about the ring gears. Maybe print one to see how the > pinions fit. Then look at the other ring gear and two more pinion sets. And > obviously will also have to design the pinion drive shaft. > > I imagine the assembly will end up looking something like the one that Sam > built as a dual spline harmonic? > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd Zuercher [ <mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com> > > mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com] > > Sent: December-14-21 11:40 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > > > It is a Freecad file, you have to open it with Freecad. (If I double > > click on it in a file manager on a Linux pc I get that list to.) > > > > Todd Zuercher > > P. Graham Dunn Inc. > > 630 Henry Street > > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gene Heskett < <mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net> ghesk...@shentel.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:53 PM > > To: <mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > > > On Tue, 14 Dec, 2021 at 1:07 PM, Todd Zuercher < > > <mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com> to...@pgrahamdunn.com> wrote: > > > > > > To: enhanced machine controller (emc) > > The "pinned" pinions are for if they are to be conventionally made metal > > gears to accommodate easy conventional manufacturing. > > If they were printed, they could simply printed as one piece. A metal > > set of gears would have be hobbed separately, then stacked and offset at > > the correct angles then drilled and pinned together so > they turn as one gear. > > > > Playing with the cad some more I'm not even sure that it would even be > > necessary to fudge the modulus on the ring gears to make them both the > > same diameter. But it comes at the cost of getting the highest > > possible gear reduction. It is only 1.5 tooth/rev instead of 1 tooth, > > but it is still better than the 2 tooth/rev max possible with the true > > harmonic drives. (Although a true harmonic drive can get away with and > > probably works better with finer/smaller teeth.) For example if the > > fixed ring gear has 100 teeth, meshing with 3 pinions of 40 teeth on > > the driven spider. (see attached pic) Then on the output side adding > > one tooth to the ring gear(101) and > > pinions(41) The teeth still mesh perfectly at the same spider axel > > lengths. Then pin the 40 and 41 tooth pinions together. I think the > > final drive ratio would be 67-1/3:1. One revolution of the spider > > would turn the pinions 2.5 times, and advance the driven ring gear > > 1.5 teeth. (please correct me if I'm wrong in my calculations.) Also I > > think making the output ring and pinions one tooth smaller instead of > > larger keeps the ratio the same but reverses the output > direction. Here is a link to the Freecad model. > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdriv> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdriv > > e.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F1QX6cw-&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdu > > nn.com%7C48cd05236af94274e3a408d9bf5d17c0%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e08 > > 06fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751228834141105%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC > > 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sd > > ata=0p%2F4ye8YsxbrOGDldiclmTE%2FA88AzyMtTAl2W9jekIg%3D&reserved=0 > > zHwiRNLSGqVZV_AoieQYPtvKRB%2Fview%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ct > > oddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb > > 0d143330dd508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C6 > > 37751048404394852%7CUnknown%7CTWFp > > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn > > 0%3D%7C3000&sdata=h1ePHRAQKLaTDCRls > > HUxq3ODzsXgQAQEDzGg3nCfPyY%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > This doesn't render here Todd, its a text list of colors. > > > > > > Making the difference between driven and output two teeth, still works out > > to mesh correctly but makes the output ratio 34:1. > > (100t/40t:102t/42t) Which I think might be about the perfect ratio > > for the rack and pinion drive on my router (to replace it's barely > > adequate 10:1 belt.) However I'd probably be better off simply buying a > > readily available off the shelf 30:1 planetary gear box for > that. > > > > > > > > Were I to do that idea in openscad, I'd union the two different pinions and > > print 4 of them. > > Not having access to your model, probably a mimetype error here, do > > you have an axle bearing per gear, or could I just use one gear per > > unionized pair? It seems to me that both bearings would be > needed to resist the twisting moment on the pinions under load. > > I've now installed freecad, and will dl the link and see if that will show > > me what you have. > > > > Todd Zuercher > > P. Graham Dunn Inc. > > 630 Henry Street > > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Dammeyer > > < <mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com%3cmailto:jo...@autoartisans.com> > > jo...@autoartisans.com<mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:30 AM > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:emc-us...@lists.sourceforge.ne > > t>> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > > > Todd, > > I'm not sure I 'get' how it works with the pinned gears. > > > > I built a different kind of flex cup drive based on a paper on what is > > called an HGD_EWG_Drive > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > > geartechnology.com%2Fissues%2F1013x%2Fharmoni&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz > > %40pgrahamdunn.com%7C48cd05236af94274e3a408d9bf5d17c0%7C5758544c573f47 > > cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751228834141105%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3 > > d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7 > > C3000&sdata=VOwRT5Ol5WFCP9lJXpronQGU6KEJd6R5OoaBRHLzFHk%3D&res > > erved=0 > > c_drive.pdf&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0d14 > > 3330dd508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47c > > ebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d > > 8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM > > zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=sqS9DyYADHEEp2K6XU9 > > 8Jl%2FtEHd%2FuVsehu7vaajW8Fk%3D&r > > eserved=0 > > > > Here's a really short video of the version of one I created. I used > > that earlier 3D print harmonic drive for the base tooth form although > > this type looks like you can use involute profile or even belt profile as > > the flex teeth follow a circular rather than elliptical gear. > Something to play with now that I have some PETG. > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyout> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyout > > u.be%2Flb6shTgQ1wY&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C48cd05 > > 236af94274e3a408d9bf5d17c0%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0% > > 7C637751228834141105%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI > > joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=RhWq7Ob1OtP > > w7ewh%2FjHitjP1dGV2oyn0BlV59D5nwVQ%3D&reserved=0 > > %40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0d143330dd508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47 > > cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751 > > 048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM > > zIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C > > 3000&sdata=L1ZCbk4vQLNwth%2BjgY7JpQQh1a6LD9UN6ePO7Kk5Z2o%3D&re > > served=0 > > > > I really need to bring in a bigger stepper to play with this. The > > surplus unit with about 1A at 36V will stall if I even look at it cross > > eyed. > > > > Here's the original I was playing with along side the new one. > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a > > utoartisans.com%2Fharmonicdrive%2FHarmonicDrive&data=04%7C01%7Ctod > > dz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C48cd05236af94274e3a408d9bf5d17c0%7C5758544c573f > > 47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751228834141105%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs > > b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D > > %7C3000&sdata=DngsWxx6Z9c79ch3EMu1f5P4lcHBY8yqyeRz3zOEeuY%3D&r > > eserved=0 > > - > > 35.jpg&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0d143330d > > d508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47cebee > > 96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ > > WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC > > JBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ee87%2FTZuN1zEfVCblcYSCn > > xYyJhVwGscGNyrzoy5M%2Bs%3D&reser > > ved=0 > > > > I still don't have the right size bearings but did have these tiny > > ones I bought 20 years ago at a model aircraft show in the UK. So I > > created bearings that were 22mm diameter. Big issue there > they were really only 21.3mm after printing and that caused all sorts of > > issues because I forgot that detail. I then printed some oversize, > > created an arbor for them on the lathe and turned them down to > > 22mm. Now I get 100% connection and zero backlash. This things spins > > so smoothly just by placing a finger on the wave cup driver and pushing it > > around. And you can't hold onto the output. > > > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a > > utoartisans.com%2Fharmonicdrive%2FHarmonicDrive&data=04%7C01%7Ctod > > dz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C48cd05236af94274e3a408d9bf5d17c0%7C5758544c573f > > 47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751228834141105%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs > > b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D > > %7C3000&sdata=DngsWxx6Z9c79ch3EMu1f5P4lcHBY8yqyeRz3zOEeuY%3D&r > > eserved=0 > > - > > 29.jpg&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0d143330d > > d508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47cebee > > 96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ > > WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC > > JBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=98y0KPsDgP0XL%2FwerNJsD4 > > C0iXkSYx3PIXPoI%2FNy1WU%3D&reserv > > ed=0 > > > > And here's a diagram of most of the bits and pieces. > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a > > utoartisans.com%2Fharmonicdrive%2FHarmonicDrive&data=04%7C01%7Ctod > > dz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C48cd05236af94274e3a408d9bf5d17c0%7C5758544c573f > > 47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751228834141105%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs > > b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D > > %7C3000&sdata=DngsWxx6Z9c79ch3EMu1f5P4lcHBY8yqyeRz3zOEeuY%3D&r > > eserved=0 > > - > > 28.jpg&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0d143330d > > d508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47cebee > > 96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637751048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ > > WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC > > JBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=rdvZ%2B4gMMR8YZX4iZCMJnZ > > QY41q82NsnTQCCcG8%2Faw4%3D&re > > served=0 > > > > The main bearings are utility trailer 1" ID roller bearings. I'm > > waiting for 6101 and 6103 bearings to arrive. Most of the parts will be > > made from metal. > > > > John Dammeyer > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Todd Zuercher > > > [ <mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com%3cmailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com%3e> > > > mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com<mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com>] > > > Sent: December-03-21 8:37 AM > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > > > > > It was easier to model in Freecad than I expected. I'll try to attach a > > > jpg of it and see if it goes through. > > > > > > And if it doesn't go through a link to it on my Google drive. > > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdr> > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdr > > > iv > > > e.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F1_eSu-olALMsevTnOpzQ1o1r_rPjfexwU%2Fview%3 > > > Fu > > > sp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0 > > > d1 > > > 43330dd508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C63 > > > 77 > > > 51048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV > > > 2l > > > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kFLK8IVVRbugQye > > > Ts > > > Zl77AYP%2BQsgwBuVgrvUjR9ysb4%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > Here is a link to the Freecad file (Freecad v0.18). > > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdr> > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdr > > > iv > > > e.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F1GGwG9nzmYowKeuMAWMvOExeGrvSzZCnY%2Fview%3 > > > Fu > > > sp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7C5ce70ebbb0 > > > d1 > > > 43330dd508d9bf32e1f5%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C63 > > > 77 > > > 51048404404837%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV > > > 2l > > > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=GePtOJMld%2FrrT > > > Nk > > > HQTQRqAUXh6OWIGDv8Ry8p2%2FoMTo%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > Todd Zuercher > > > P. Graham Dunn Inc. > > > 630 Henry Street > > > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > > > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andy Pugh < <mailto:bodge...@gmail.com%3cmailto:bodge...@gmail.com> > > > bodge...@gmail.com<mailto:bodge...@gmail.com>> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 6:40 PM > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge. > > > ne > > > t>> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive > > > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > > > > > > On 2 Dec 2021, at 21:14, Todd Zuercher < > > > > <mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com%3cmailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com> > > > > to...@pgrahamdunn.com<mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > What if you used two outer ring gears of the same diameter one > > > > with one fewer teeth. Then have 4 sets of planetaries stacked in > > > pairs. Each pair would be pinned together > > > > > > You can just use pinions twice as long as the ring gears. 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