Sorry, I meant to say page 132 on the pdf (which is 126 on the actual page).
El mié, 25 ene 2023 a las 8:10, Leonardo Marsaglia (<ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió: > I'm puzzled. I didn't have any of those kind of problems setting up my >> Bergerda AC Servos. Other than screwing up with position mode verses >> velocity mode. And you're sure the drive is set for velocity mode? >> >> All the other parameters can be set from the front panel of the Bergerda >> drive and the HiWin D2 doesn't look any different. >> https://www.hiwin.us/wp-content/uploads/d2_drive_user_manual.pdf >> >> When I had problems with one issue I contacted the factory in China and >> Donald Chen, the sales rep, had one of the engineers make a short video on >> his cell phone which he then emailed to me showing the exact locations to >> change and what to change them too. >> >> So not sure why you need tuning software. >> > > Hi John, > > Well, from what my brother told me, position is reached repeatable and > accurately enough, the only problem is LCNC reaches it before so I suspect > the driver is well configured in that aspect . I really didn't even touch > the drives so all I can tell is what I can see in the manuals, and the only > way they show acceleration/deceleration and speed can be modified is by the > PC software (page 208 on the pdf). There's a little parameter table that > starts on page 126 that shows accel, decel and speed parameters without > further explanation. Those might be the same parameters that they explain > better in the softwared based configuration so I'll tell him to adjust > those and see if that solves the problem. > > I'm used to the manuals that show you the 30 pages of parameters with the > description of each one :) > > El mié, 25 ene 2023 a las 1:54, John Dammeyer (<jo...@autoartisans.com>) > escribió: > >> I'm puzzled. I didn't have any of those kind of problems setting up my >> Bergerda AC Servos. Other than screwing up with position mode verses >> velocity mode. And you're sure the drive is set for velocity mode? >> >> All the other parameters can be set from the front panel of the Bergerda >> drive and the HiWin D2 doesn't look any different. >> https://www.hiwin.us/wp-content/uploads/d2_drive_user_manual.pdf >> >> When I had problems with one issue I contacted the factory in China and >> Donald Chen, the sales rep, had one of the engineers make a short video on >> his cell phone which he then emailed to me showing the exact locations to >> change and what to change them too. >> >> So not sure why you need tuning software. >> >> John >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: January-24-23 6:51 PM >> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position >> after LCNC >> > >> > Hi guys again and thanks for all the answers :) >> > >> > Well, indeed the problem as Todd suggested is because of the driver >> > limiting acceleration and velocity. I found in the manual that this can >> be >> > changed and they recommend using a value 10 times higher than what LCNC >> > commands. This is to avoid this peaking to max speed/acceleration >> problem >> > of course. >> > >> > The only drawback is that the only way to change these settings is using >> > their software and a PC. At least that's what the manual shows. >> > >> > >> > >> > El mar, 24 ene 2023 a las 17:19, gene heskett (<ghesk...@shentel.net>) >> > escribi�: >> > >> > > On 1/24/23 11:07, Sam Sokolik wrote: >> > > > This is why I don't like smart servo drives.. lol.. You don't >> know how >> > > > well the drive is following the path linuxcnc is commanding.. >> > > >> > > My experience has been the opposite Sam. I have no PID's in the config >> > > to run my Sheldon 11x54, I put a 3NM on the Z cause the carriage >> weighs >> > > around 20 maybe more pounds. In all cases here I'm using the 3 phase >> > > version, turns 1.2 degree per full step cycle. >> > > >> > > But I didn't have room for the length of a 3NM behind the new apron, >> so >> > > I put a 2NM on to drive X. >> > > >> > > I took off a 1200 inlb nema34 as it could only do a g0 at 60ipm on a >> > > good day, and took a nema 24 off the x because its max w/o a stall was >> > > maybe 29 ipm on a good day. And both were noisy as can be. >> > > >> > > With the 2 nema-23 3 phase stepper/servo's, Z now moves at 120 ipm, >> and >> > > x moves at 60 ipm, and at working speeds cannot be heard, only the >> belt >> > > swish driving the spindle. Like watching Casper the ghost turning the >> > > cranks now. >> > > >> > > I can position a chuck jaw to be hit with a missdirected tool at 10 >> ipm, >> > > it hits the jaw sees the stop, and stops lcnc in about a millisecond. >> > > The chip in the tool isn't damaged, and the jaw wasn't marked. The >> > > motors run cold because the error controls the motor current. They >> WILL >> > > GET to where they are told to go, or they will STOP LCNC in its tracks >> > > midstep before the part is damaged. FWIW, that sort of a stop has >> yet >> > > to happen while its working. >> > > >> > > I have a 6040 gantry mill, and the Z was too puny even after I binned >> > > the electronics that came with it and replaced it all with LCNC >> feeding >> > > 2m542's running on 42 volts. It's xy went from 15 ipm to 200 ipm but z >> > > could just barely lift that water cooled spindle, but a 1NM >> > > stepper/servo acts like it could lift another 25 pounds at 30 ipm. >> > > >> > > When I needed a B axis to make the vise screw I'm going to sell if I >> > > can, I made several printed harmonic drives but could not get the >> speed >> > > to spin the screw while I carved it. I had bought a 5/1 worm on spec 4 >> > > or 5 years ago, so I put a 3NM on it with a printed shaft adapter, and >> > > printed the chuck for the slow end of the worm driving a 2x2 hard >> maple >> > > stick about 2 feet long. I can carve a screw at 200 rpm on the screw. >> > > >> > > There's more backlash in the cheap worm than motor error but I'm >> carving >> > > a 2 start thread that fits perfectly by carving the 2nd start on its >> way >> > > back to start a new 1st start. The hard maple stick is turning >> backwards >> > > then. 180 degrees out of phase with the fwd motion. >> > > >> > > And Ali-Express is getting plumb reasonable on them right now. >> > > >> > > [snip Leonardo's problem, this isn't really part of that thread.] >> > > >> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. >> > > -- >> > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) >> > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law >> respectable. >> > > - Louis D. Brandeis >> > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Emc-users mailing list >> > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Emc-users mailing list >> > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
