I'd guess that if you were a manufacturer of CNC equipment before the internet 
age you'd set up the machines however you wanted to lock in your customers.  
The idea of being compatible with your competitors is just wrong.

Now however, we have MACH, LinuxCNC, and a number of embedded systems not to 
mention the 3D printer world all using G-Code in one form or another.  So 
although the CAD/CAM world still has to be able to support a Z axis where a Z+ 
moves toward the turning part or spindle the reality is we're fortunately 
moving toward compatibility.  That old piece of iron with Z+ toward has the 
electronics (no schematics or support) ripped out and new electronics installed 
and to more of a standard.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Groups [mailto:gro...@homanndesigns.com]
> Sent: February 8, 2024 9:36 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Axis direction
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I�m fairly sure that on a CNC machine the z-axis is the axis parallel to the
> spindle.
> On a CNC surface grinder, the Z axis is what you would expect to be the Y
> axis.
> 
> But in reality you can name them however you like. ??
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Peter Homann - (from my mobile)
> http://www.homanndesigns.com
> 
> > On 7 Feb 2024, at 5:29�am, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?It is pretty easy to see WHY the z-axis is set up the way it is on a lath 
> > and a
> mill and why it is different.   You need a well defined �zero�.  On a mill, 
> the
> machine's �zero" is the table and one a mill it is the chuck.   A lathe has 
> not
> other well define place on the machine, the tailstock moves.
> >
> > The after defining the zero point you use the �natural� convention the
> number get bigger if you go to the right or up.
> >
> > This is the normal way engineers thing about corodrnttes.  you ask thee
> questions IN ORDER
> > 1) where is the origin?
> > 2) which way does �Z� point
> > 3) then apply the right hand rules for X and Y
> >
> > It�s not just machine tools that do this but everyone from physic research
> to aircraft manufacturing.  And you do have to answer those question in
> order.
> >
> > #2 is really arbitrary but from 8th grade algebra on, we are used to drawing
> graphs with the numbers getting bigger as you go up or right and with the
> zero point inthe lower left
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 6, 2024, at 6:06�AM, gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2/6/24 07:54, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> >>> Ray Henry's story is a Murphy's Law occurrence. I once had a car with a
> >>> starter problem. I changed the starter three or four times in quick
> >>> succession. I could not figure out why so I purchased two, put one in the
> >>> trunk along with tools. I never had to use it.
> >> Chuckle. BTDT...Still do at times. Works better than average. But the way
> Ray worded it caught me off guard and I literally shook myself laughing for
> quite a spell. I spent some time in Iron Mountain MI, about a long hour from
> Ray's place, so I visited a couple times while modifying the tv station there 
> for
> digital.
> >>
> >> If you ever come across any more of those teeny ball screws like you sold
> me around 20 years back I've got a place to put them.
> >>
> >> Take care & stay well, Stuart.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> >> --
> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> >> - Louis D. Brandeis
> >>
> >>
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