On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:37:28 +1030 Simon Lees <[email protected]> said: > > > On 31/01/18 10:39, Davide Andreoli wrote: > > The fdo icons in the efl theme are indeed GPL3, > > as clearly staten in COPYING.images and data/elementary/themes/fdo > > > > I have no idea about the contamination and the resulting theme final > > license. > > > > For sure I want (and we must) them to remain to that license. > > > > I don't understand why you wouldn't want them licensed under an > equivalent creative commons license rather then GPL-3, GPL-3 is designed > for source code where as creative commons is designed for images, using > the wrong sort of licenses leads to the ambiguities we are seeing here, > if we can't convince the upstream developers to change there isn't much > we can do but its worth trying.
we need to probably replace them with icons that are not licensed like the above. as for contamination, that is generally considered to be true with code if they share the same memory space. icons on the other hand do not. they are first decoded/rendered then manipulated. code from the binary is mapped directly into memory as-is pretty much minus relocation. so while i don't think DATA files would leak their license to efl, gplv3 does create requirements of its host system (to allow any gplv3 components to be replaceable by the end user) and that requires any system that would ship these to not be locked down. that is generally disliked by commercial vendors. so my take is "replace them". i could replace them anyway if the theme fundamentally changed (e.g. became flat). > > > > 2018-01-30 14:05 GMT+01:00 Jean-Philippe André <[email protected]>: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Simon Lees <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 30/01/18 22:20, Jean-Philippe André wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Sungtaek pointed out to me that we have GPLv3-licensed artworks (unsual > >>> for > >>>> images) in our theme, under data/elementary/theme/fdo. Those images are > >>> are > >>>> then included in the compiled theme default.edj. One source is clearly > >>>> GPLv3: > >>>> https://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 > >>>> > >>>> Now I wonder what the implications of this are... > >>>> 1. Does Elementary become GPL because we load the theme and it contains > >>>> executable code (embryo & edje programs), so the theme is to be > >>> considered > >>>> a library, contaminating everything?? > >>>> 2. Or only the theme itself is GPL, by contamination from those images? > >>>> 3. Or is the compiled theme file not GPL because we're not linking or > >>>> derivating, merely archiving those images like in a Zip file, in which > >>> case > >>>> only what's in the tree is GPL? This would be same as HTML: > >>>> https://news.slashdot.org/story/13/06/26/2113242/when- > >>> gpl-becomes-almost-gpl-the-css-images-and-javascript- > >>> loophole/informative-comments#comments > >>>> > >>>> In the FAQ I only found a mention about fonts: > >>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#FontException > >>>> We don't have such an exception. > >>>> > >>>> Pretty sure there is no problem (i.e. #3 is right), but IANAL so I'd > >>> rather > >>>> ask away :) > >>>> > >>> > >>> Licence wise i've always considered themes to be separate, whether that > >>> is correct or not is another question. GPL with images is silly anyway > >>> and we really should be asking upstream to relicense with some form of > >>> creative commons anyway which makes far more sense, but I guess the > >>> theme is probably technically GPL-3 as a binary. > >> > >> > >> Not so sure. HTML seems to be a crazy exception: An HTML file containing > >> GPL licensed JS code is not GPL itself. Not consistent but makes sense. EDJ > >> probably also falls under the category of "container". > >> > >> > >>> Probably the biggest actual real life issue is if the theme is being > >>> used in consumer devices such as tizen you would need to provide > >>> consumers a way to swap there stock theme for one of there choice. > >>> > >> > >> Yeah that's partly why I'm asking. :) > >> > >> -- > >> Jean-Philippe André > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> ------------------ > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > -- > > Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net > > Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek > SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
