Perhaps we should -- otherwise I see people voting and making decisions in one group that the other group would not agree to at all, as well as the fact that the North American group is pretty heavily E devs and the European/Asian group is pretty heavily interfaces/EFL ... without crossover there I just foresee that being a problem. We can still have two meetings, but just make the time slot a little more reasonable for each so there is at least the opportunity for crossover, or we can go back to one, or we can just leave it as is and see what happens.
On Fri, May 11, 2018, 4:27 AM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2018 19:07:56 +0000 Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> > said: > > > I'm well aware the other time slot allows for North Americans but it will > > then cut out anyone else. That's the point I was making - there is going > > to be little crossover. between the two groups of people meeting - and I > > don't think that is a good thing. > > in that case we should only have 1 time slot and "deal with it" because if > you > have 2, people will attend the one that easier for them and skip the > other. you > force people who want to participate to adapt to a single slot so there is > no > "lack of crossover". > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 10 May 2018 14:55:07 +0000 Stephen Houston < > smhousto...@gmail.com> > > > said: > > > > > > > This was the best time you could come up with for the meetings? > 4-6AM > > > EST, > > > > 3-5AM CDT, 2-4AM MST, and 1-3AM PDT? That pretty much means that no > > > North > > > > Americans are going to be present at all... at least with the time we > > > were > > > > using for the meetings previously, it is reasonable enough for North > > > > Americans, Europeans, and Asians to all attend whether it be 8AM on > the > > > > west coast of US or 11PM for like indefini in Japan... sure that is > > > easier > > > > for US... but then you just flip that time for the second meeting > and its > > > > still reasonable enough for all to attend but easier for indefini in > > > > Japan. This is what I was expecting. Not a time that is basically > going > > > > to mean: US gets to meet the first meeting of the month with > eachother > > > and > > > > then Eastern European/Asians get to meet with eachother the second > > > meeting > > > > of the month and there is no crossover (minus Western Europeans that > can > > > > make both). I foresee that as being bad and not really working out. > > > > > > ummm you need to look at the other time slot too. i don't think we're > > > going to > > > do 2hrs each... > > > > > > https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=100,8,5,1850147&h=100 > > > > > > so one is 1am/4am PDT/EDT an the other is 9am/12pm PDT/EDT. (CDT being > in > > > between). and note on the other end with Japan (and Korea etc.) time. > > > > > > :) so they keep flipping between 2 times to try and let everyone > attend at > > > least once a month. > > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:58 AM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/10/2018 09:22 AM, Simon Lees wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/05/18 13:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz > > > > > >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the > > > relatively > > > > > >>> obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is > inaccessible > > > to > > > > > anyone > > > > > >>> who has not been avidly following the mailing list > archives--ie. > > > will > > > > > never > > > > > >>> be visible to any new community members--this is not quite the > > > same as > > > > > >>> recording the minutes of a meeting. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> see the ticket that this was all about. it's there in the ticket > > > itself > > > > > in the > > > > > >> body. that is where the conversation was happening so it's > > > summarized > > > > > there. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> i don't see why etherpad is needed. we have plenty of tools on > phab > > > for > > > > > this. > > > > > >> no one disagreed with a wiki page. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> you were talking as if people need to have it explained to them > what > > > > > minutes > > > > > >> are: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, > the > > > > > minutes > > > > > >> will be recorded for posterity: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes"; > > > > > >> > > > > > >> marcel already said: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> "But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for > > > monitoring > > > > > >> contents of the meetings and some them up." > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ... so again. i see no reason why minutes will not be taken and > > > > > recorded. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > What I would like to see and I think what Mike is getting at is a > > > wiki > > > > > > page either on the main wiki or somewhere on phab, which atleast > > > lists > > > > > > all the links to the meeting summaries rather then just having > > > obscure > > > > > > phab links to them. Even better would be if all the summaries > were > > > also > > > > > > just in one page so you didn't have to click links to follow the > > > > > > previous meetings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, thats what i want to do on this page and the linked pages > > > > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/meetings/ :). > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -------------- > > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
