On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:39:11 -0200
"Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:09 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:01:30 +0900 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> >> Sorry for the Digest reply, but dont we already have a toolbar? In
> >> fact line 15900 of default.edc has a toolbar section. So we have
> >> another toolbar now?
> >
> > toolbar FOR efm, and a toolbar "widget" - different :)
> 
> btw, as others on IRC: I dislike the new config dialog.
> 
> maybe if we reduce the number of categories and avoid scroll, it could
> work better. since it's very similar to macos, we could do like them
> and put a first screen to choose the category, so it's like:
>     Configuration window:  Look, Apps, ...  as a grid or so, possible
> with descriptive texts as we see on macos, kde or vista.
>     Look window: Wallpaper, theme... followed by the selected app
> dialog.
> 
> maybe this will not match e17 way, so out of ideas.
> 

Another idea might be collapsible headers for each category.  Clicking
on the header would then expand that category in the list.  In fact a
generic collapsible widget could be useful in other places as well.

Another idea would be to have a list of categories.  Once you pick a
category, the contents of the list are replaced with that category with
a button to go backwards.  This type of interface works on a
touchscreen as well as a desktop.  Some examples of this type of
interface is the iPhone Settings and to a lesser extent the Windows
Control Panel (the new one with the categories and such, not the
classic one).  Both provide a similar flow of category -> items and
include some way to go back.  So in this way I see it as serving both
worlds and also has some track record of actually being useful for
both.  

I like my first idea more though because it could potentially require
less clicking at the expense of more scrolling.  But with kinetic
scrolling and mouse wheels, scrolling isn't all that expensive to the
user anymore.  The collapsible headers help with that anyway.

In either case, I don't agree with less categories.  We could possibly
trim a couple (menus could be merged with apps for example), but in the
long run, we shouldn't limit the number of categories as to make them
useless.  Especially with a modular design, who knows what categories
will be created.  Have to be flexible with this.

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