2008/11/22 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:39:11 -0200
> "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:09 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:01:30 +0900 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > babbled:
>> >
>> >> Sorry for the Digest reply, but dont we already have a toolbar? In
>> >> fact line 15900 of default.edc has a toolbar section. So we have
>> >> another toolbar now?
>> >
>> > toolbar FOR efm, and a toolbar "widget" - different :)

Well the efm toolbar should probably be renamed to e/fileman/toolbar
then, IMHO. I could give it a try, but I know I make a lot of people
nervous when I start commiting C code. :)

Toma

>>
>> btw, as others on IRC: I dislike the new config dialog.
>>
>> maybe if we reduce the number of categories and avoid scroll, it could
>> work better. since it's very similar to macos, we could do like them
>> and put a first screen to choose the category, so it's like:
>>     Configuration window:  Look, Apps, ...  as a grid or so, possible
>> with descriptive texts as we see on macos, kde or vista.
>>     Look window: Wallpaper, theme... followed by the selected app
>> dialog.
>>
>> maybe this will not match e17 way, so out of ideas.
>>
>
> Another idea might be collapsible headers for each category.  Clicking
> on the header would then expand that category in the list.  In fact a
> generic collapsible widget could be useful in other places as well.
>
> Another idea would be to have a list of categories.  Once you pick a
> category, the contents of the list are replaced with that category with
> a button to go backwards.  This type of interface works on a
> touchscreen as well as a desktop.  Some examples of this type of
> interface is the iPhone Settings and to a lesser extent the Windows
> Control Panel (the new one with the categories and such, not the
> classic one).  Both provide a similar flow of category -> items and
> include some way to go back.  So in this way I see it as serving both
> worlds and also has some track record of actually being useful for
> both.
>
> I like my first idea more though because it could potentially require
> less clicking at the expense of more scrolling.  But with kinetic
> scrolling and mouse wheels, scrolling isn't all that expensive to the
> user anymore.  The collapsible headers help with that anyway.
>
> In either case, I don't agree with less categories.  We could possibly
> trim a couple (menus could be merged with apps for example), but in the
> long run, we shouldn't limit the number of categories as to make them
> useless.  Especially with a modular design, who knows what categories
> will be created.  Have to be flexible with this.
>
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