On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:48:08 +0900 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> 2008/11/22 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:39:11 -0200
> > "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:09 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:01:30 +0900 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > babbled:
> >> >
> >> >> Sorry for the Digest reply, but dont we already have a toolbar? In
> >> >> fact line 15900 of default.edc has a toolbar section. So we have
> >> >> another toolbar now?
> >> >
> >> > toolbar FOR efm, and a toolbar "widget" - different :)
> 
> Well the efm toolbar should probably be renamed to e/fileman/toolbar
> then, IMHO. I could give it a try, but I know I make a lot of people
> nervous when I start commiting C code. :)

this is pretty easy though - find strings... replace. :)

> Toma
> 
> >>
> >> btw, as others on IRC: I dislike the new config dialog.
> >>
> >> maybe if we reduce the number of categories and avoid scroll, it could
> >> work better. since it's very similar to macos, we could do like them
> >> and put a first screen to choose the category, so it's like:
> >>     Configuration window:  Look, Apps, ...  as a grid or so, possible
> >> with descriptive texts as we see on macos, kde or vista.
> >>     Look window: Wallpaper, theme... followed by the selected app
> >> dialog.
> >>
> >> maybe this will not match e17 way, so out of ideas.
> >>
> >
> > Another idea might be collapsible headers for each category.  Clicking
> > on the header would then expand that category in the list.  In fact a
> > generic collapsible widget could be useful in other places as well.
> >
> > Another idea would be to have a list of categories.  Once you pick a
> > category, the contents of the list are replaced with that category with
> > a button to go backwards.  This type of interface works on a
> > touchscreen as well as a desktop.  Some examples of this type of
> > interface is the iPhone Settings and to a lesser extent the Windows
> > Control Panel (the new one with the categories and such, not the
> > classic one).  Both provide a similar flow of category -> items and
> > include some way to go back.  So in this way I see it as serving both
> > worlds and also has some track record of actually being useful for
> > both.
> >
> > I like my first idea more though because it could potentially require
> > less clicking at the expense of more scrolling.  But with kinetic
> > scrolling and mouse wheels, scrolling isn't all that expensive to the
> > user anymore.  The collapsible headers help with that anyway.
> >
> > In either case, I don't agree with less categories.  We could possibly
> > trim a couple (menus could be merged with apps for example), but in the
> > long run, we shouldn't limit the number of categories as to make them
> > useless.  Especially with a modular design, who knows what categories
> > will be created.  Have to be flexible with this.
> >
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