On Saturday, 29 October 2011, at 11:23:37 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is after > fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is. > > the reason xrandr is on the todo is that there are many complaints and > questions about how to get multi screen to work and we have no solution. > > the reason taskbar is there is because engage is compositing based > realistically > and we have to work without, and we again have had enough users complain and > ask for a way to switch tasks. > > the reason efm is on the list is its mostly working and usable as a simple > filemanager - that was its point. it needs some bugs fixed. > > the reason keymap config is there is for all those europeans (and a few > others) > with odd keymaps and people have no clue how to configure this on a > command-line or in config files. the other todo items could get dropped, > though > theme does need to be polished. > > this wasnt unilaterally decided by me. i believe in making a good attempt at a > quality release. gustavo just believes in dumping out whatever we have. all > the > bitching about gnome and others will happen to us if we don't provide these > basics that gnome etc. already DO. to many people we are useless. these are > not > new fangled ideas or standards - this is old hat that we haven't covered. so > how do u expect to make those people happy and try or stay with e when we are > not functional in some key aspects?
Absolutely correct. After 10 years of development, releasing nothing is far, far preferable to releasing something half-assed. I can hear the comments now. "I've waited this long for crap? 10 years, and this is the best they can do? Never again!" If people are honestly that bent out of shape wanting a release, they should be hammering away on the TODO list. Getting shit done is how a release will happen, not rehashing the same tired old argument every few months diverting time from more productive pursuits. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <m...@kainx.org> Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I feel wonderful because I see the love light in your eyes, and the wonder of it all is that you just don't realize how much I love you." -- Eric Clapton, "Wonderful Tonight" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your Android app more play: Bring it to the BlackBerry PlayBook in minutes. BlackBerry App World™ now supports Android™ Apps for the BlackBerry® PlayBook™. Discover just how easy and simple it is! http://p.sf.net/sfu/android-dev2dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel