On 10/28/11 22:55, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Saturday, 29 October 2011, at 11:23:37 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >> i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is >> after >> fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is. >> >> the reason xrandr is on the todo is that there are many complaints and >> questions about how to get multi screen to work and we have no solution. >> >> the reason taskbar is there is because engage is compositing based >> realistically >> and we have to work without, and we again have had enough users complain and >> ask for a way to switch tasks. >> >> the reason efm is on the list is its mostly working and usable as a simple >> filemanager - that was its point. it needs some bugs fixed. >> >> the reason keymap config is there is for all those europeans (and a few >> others) >> with odd keymaps and people have no clue how to configure this on a >> command-line or in config files. the other todo items could get dropped, >> though >> theme does need to be polished. >> >> this wasnt unilaterally decided by me. i believe in making a good attempt at >> a >> quality release. gustavo just believes in dumping out whatever we have. all >> the >> bitching about gnome and others will happen to us if we don't provide these >> basics that gnome etc. already DO. to many people we are useless. these are >> not >> new fangled ideas or standards - this is old hat that we haven't covered. so >> how do u expect to make those people happy and try or stay with e when we are >> not functional in some key aspects? > > Absolutely correct. > > After 10 years of development, releasing nothing is far, far > preferable to releasing something half-assed. > > I can hear the comments now. "I've waited this long for crap? 10 > years, and this is the best they can do? Never again!" > 110 % agreed !!!
> If people are honestly that bent out of shape wanting a release, they > should be hammering away on the TODO list. Yup yup. Getting shit done is how a > release will happen, not rehashing the same tired old argument every > few months diverting time from more productive pursuits. > Ahmen...tired of hearing it (well that and the formatting wars). dh > Michael > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your Android app more play: Bring it to the BlackBerry PlayBook in minutes. BlackBerry App World™ now supports Android™ Apps for the BlackBerry® PlayBook™. Discover just how easy and simple it is! http://p.sf.net/sfu/android-dev2dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
