On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:

> Alternatively work to have such modules in tree.

yup. if they come in tree, then we "take responsibility for it".

> Since I've joined the project I saw (or helped) many modules to be included
> in core. All it takes is little effort to make them good quality and fit a
> purpose. tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I blame e17 for not
> having digital clock since day0), places could be included with some effort.

indeed. though imho places should really become a feature of efm rather than a
module of its own (well feature of fileman module). e17 needs/wants some of
these 3rd party modules - cpu and mem meters for example, but we just havent
had the time to deal with it. :)

this dialog is there to cut down the workload in getting a release out. it's
also there to remind the user that they are entering an "unsupported" universe.

> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:44 -0600 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > said:
> >
> > > In the latest alpha there is a warning at startup about 3rd party
> > modules -
> > > is there a simple way to disable this message?
> >
> > no. i put it there very much intentionally. it's not going away.
> >
> > > If I allow it to pop up for Bodhi users I know it will freak out a number
> > > of them (end users are a fairly skittish lot).
> >
> > this is part of doing QA. after week after week having people say things
> > like
> > "i get segvs!" then spending 10 mins back and forth finding its a
> > out-of-e17
> > tree module causing it (eg get them to unload engage and problem goes
> > away),
> > i'm tired of my time being wasted by this. we aren't releasing engage. we
> > aren't releasing places, tclock or any of these. we are releasing e17. this
> > is e's version of the kernels "tainted" message. as a gui app.. we stuff
> > that
> > message into the gui. perhaps you should simply not have any 3rd party
> > modules
> > loaded/enabled by default in any profile in bodhi as frankly... we will
> > wipe
> > our hands of them and the problems they cause. we don't have the manpower
> > to
> > spend on that.
> >
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