I understand where you are coming from, but I never ask that you provide
support for the third party modules - we do that on the Bodhi forums and
IRC. I just dislike this giant "red flag" that now shows up.

Tis fine though, do what is best for getting the E17 release out on time.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
>
> > Alternatively work to have such modules in tree.
>
> yup. if they come in tree, then we "take responsibility for it".
>
> > Since I've joined the project I saw (or helped) many modules to be
> included
> > in core. All it takes is little effort to make them good quality and fit
> a
> > purpose. tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I blame e17 for not
> > having digital clock since day0), places could be included with some
> effort.
>
> indeed. though imho places should really become a feature of efm rather
> than a
> module of its own (well feature of fileman module). e17 needs/wants some of
> these 3rd party modules - cpu and mem meters for example, but we just
> havent
> had the time to deal with it. :)
>
> this dialog is there to cut down the workload in getting a release out.
> it's
> also there to remind the user that they are entering an "unsupported"
> universe.
>
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:44 -0600 Jeff Hoogland
> <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > In the latest alpha there is a warning at startup about 3rd party
> > > modules -
> > > > is there a simple way to disable this message?
> > >
> > > no. i put it there very much intentionally. it's not going away.
> > >
> > > > If I allow it to pop up for Bodhi users I know it will freak out a
> number
> > > > of them (end users are a fairly skittish lot).
> > >
> > > this is part of doing QA. after week after week having people say
> things
> > > like
> > > "i get segvs!" then spending 10 mins back and forth finding its a
> > > out-of-e17
> > > tree module causing it (eg get them to unload engage and problem goes
> > > away),
> > > i'm tired of my time being wasted by this. we aren't releasing engage.
> we
> > > aren't releasing places, tclock or any of these. we are releasing e17.
> this
> > > is e's version of the kernels "tainted" message. as a gui app.. we
> stuff
> > > that
> > > message into the gui. perhaps you should simply not have any 3rd party
> > > modules
> > > loaded/enabled by default in any profile in bodhi as frankly... we will
> > > wipe
> > > our hands of them and the problems they cause. we don't have the
> manpower
> > > to
> > > spend on that.
> > >
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