2012/11/15 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:04:59 +0100 Davide Andreoli <d...@gurumeditation.it > > > said: > > > 2012/11/14 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > > > > > Alternatively work to have such modules in tree. > > > > > > yup. if they come in tree, then we "take responsibility for it". > > > > > > > Since I've joined the project I saw (or helped) many modules to be > > > included > > > > in core. All it takes is little effort to make them good quality and > fit > > > a > > > > purpose. tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I blame e17 for not > > > > having digital clock since day0), places could be included with some > > > effort. > > > > > > indeed. though imho places should really become a feature of efm rather > > > than a > > > module of its own (well feature of fileman module). e17 needs/wants > some of > > > these 3rd party modules - cpu and mem meters for example, but we just > > > havent > > > had the time to deal with it. :) > > > > > > > We discussed the inclusion of Places many times in the past and we never > > found a deal > > Places is in a good shape, I support it and (as far as I know) it doesn't > > have issues. > > I agree we should include it in the "official" modules, but I disagree to > > "merge" it with efm, > > the reason is simple: I don't want to force the user to use efm, the user > > should be free > > to use his preferred file manager and still be able to use Places. > > > > That said, I will be happy to include Places in the e tree, as it is now, > > not merged with efm. > > can this be a solution? > > including it and not making it prt of efm is admitting that efm is crap and > users cant and don't want to use it. regardless of what efm may or may not > be > the message is a bad one and it basically encourages us to give up on it. > and > that i will not have. >
sooner or later you have to admit it: efm is crap, no one want to use it and no one is interested in developing it. > reality is that places partly duplicates stuff in efm currently - removable > device support, display of used/free amount and providing unmount/eject > controls and icons... it just sticks them in a list/box and provides a > full/empty bar display. it's a different layout on the same data efm > already > has (and regularly updates the data wehre efm shows it only in the innfo > popup). > Yes, it duplicate stuff so that you can use with different (and working) fm. This seems to me a valid reason: leaving the user the ability to choose is a must, IMO. btw, I took your comment as a 'no, don-t include it'. I give up...as always :( > > > > this dialog is there to cut down the workload in getting a release out. > > > it's > > > also there to remind the user that they are entering an "unsupported" > > > universe. > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carsten Haitzler < > ras...@rasterman.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:44 -0600 Jeff Hoogland > > > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > In the latest alpha there is a warning at startup about 3rd party > > > > > modules - > > > > > > is there a simple way to disable this message? > > > > > > > > > > no. i put it there very much intentionally. it's not going away. > > > > > > > > > > > If I allow it to pop up for Bodhi users I know it will freak out > a > > > number > > > > > > of them (end users are a fairly skittish lot). > > > > > > > > > > this is part of doing QA. after week after week having people say > > > things > > > > > like > > > > > "i get segvs!" then spending 10 mins back and forth finding its a > > > > > out-of-e17 > > > > > tree module causing it (eg get them to unload engage and problem > goes > > > > > away), > > > > > i'm tired of my time being wasted by this. we aren't releasing > engage. > > > we > > > > > aren't releasing places, tclock or any of these. we are releasing > e17. > > > this > > > > > is e's version of the kernels "tainted" message. as a gui app.. we > > > stuff > > > > > that > > > > > message into the gui. perhaps you should simply not have any 3rd > party > > > > > modules > > > > > loaded/enabled by default in any profile in bodhi as frankly... we > will > > > > > wipe > > > > > our hands of them and the problems they cause. we don't have the > > > manpower > > > > > to > > > > > spend on that. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ~Jeff Hoogland <http://jeffhoogland.com/> > > > > > > Thoughts on Technology <http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/>, Tech > > > Blog > > > > > > Bodhi Linux <http://bodhilinux.com/>, Enlightenment for your > Desktop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a > single > > > > > > web console. 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