On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:41:47 +0100 Davide Andreoli <d...@gurumeditation.it> wrote:
> 2012/11/15 Michael Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:49:58 +0100 > > Davide Andreoli <d...@gurumeditation.it> wrote: > > > > > 2012/11/15 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:04:59 +0100 Davide Andreoli < > > d...@gurumeditation.it > > > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > 2012/11/14 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > > > > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alternatively work to have such modules in tree. > > > > > > > > > > > > yup. if they come in tree, then we "take responsibility for it". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since I've joined the project I saw (or helped) many modules to > > be > > > > > > included > > > > > > > in core. All it takes is little effort to make them good quality > > and > > > > fit > > > > > > a > > > > > > > purpose. tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I blame e17 > > for not > > > > > > > having digital clock since day0), places could be included with > > some > > > > > > effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > indeed. though imho places should really become a feature of efm > > rather > > > > > > than a > > > > > > module of its own (well feature of fileman module). e17 needs/wants > > > > some of > > > > > > these 3rd party modules - cpu and mem meters for example, but we > > just > > > > > > havent > > > > > > had the time to deal with it. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We discussed the inclusion of Places many times in the past and we > > never > > > > > found a deal > > > > > Places is in a good shape, I support it and (as far as I know) it > > doesn't > > > > > have issues. > > > > > I agree we should include it in the "official" modules, but I > > disagree to > > > > > "merge" it with efm, > > > > > the reason is simple: I don't want to force the user to use efm, the > > user > > > > > should be free > > > > > to use his preferred file manager and still be able to use Places. > > > > > > > > > > That said, I will be happy to include Places in the e tree, as it is > > now, > > > > > not merged with efm. > > > > > can this be a solution? > > > > > > > > including it and not making it prt of efm is admitting that efm is > > crap and > > > > users cant and don't want to use it. regardless of what efm may or may > > not > > > > be > > > > the message is a bad one and it basically encourages us to give up on > > it. > > > > and > > > > that i will not have. > > > > > > > > > > sooner or later you have to admit it: efm is crap, no one want to use it > > > and no > > > one is interested in developing it. > > > > I'll admit that I take particular offense at your claim given the amount > > of time and effort I've put into making it NOT crap. If you're going to > > make broad statements like this, at least provide some reasons to back them > > up. > > > > Sorry, really! I didn't want to offend you. I have also spent lots of my > (free) time on it in the past. > but I am equally offended by e17 that, every day, say that my module is > unstable! > I think it's crap, or at least it doesn't fulfill my needs, for too much > reasons so I simply don't use it. > > If you like we can start another thread to discuss the efm behavior, but > warning, my first topic > will be: "E is a window manager not a file manager, I dont want my WM to > manage my files" > > peace and love :) Hey Davide, I think a lot of people appreciate the work you've done on the Places module. The only reason that it is marked as unstable is that we are trying to prepare for the E17 release. The remaining bugs are, mostly, VERY hard to track down, so we are simply trying to minimize the possibility that ANY module which will not be shipped in this release is generating a bug which we (wrongly) believe is a bug in core E functionality. It has nothing to do with the actual state or quality of any modules that are warned against. As for EFM, I agree that it still needs a lot of work. I think discussing it at a later time would be better, however, since at the moment I don't think there will be any more changes to it before release :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
