On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:12:48 -0600 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> said:
> I understand where you are coming from, but I never ask that you provide > support for the third party modules - we do that on the Bodhi forums and > IRC. I just dislike this giant "red flag" that now shows up. you don't ask for it - but people turn on on irc, email etc. and ask for support anyway. they ask us to debug crashes that are a result of 3rd party modules. that's the reality. :( it's not going to change in upstream. you are able to patch the src if you want - it's open source, but upstream will not remove this red flag. it's specifically intended to BE a red flag. > Tis fine though, do what is best for getting the E17 release out on time. indeed. that's the whole point. after release is ready - we can disable it, but until then - the red flag is there for QA reasons. > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > > > Alternatively work to have such modules in tree. > > > > yup. if they come in tree, then we "take responsibility for it". > > > > > Since I've joined the project I saw (or helped) many modules to be > > included > > > in core. All it takes is little effort to make them good quality and fit > > a > > > purpose. tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I blame e17 for not > > > having digital clock since day0), places could be included with some > > effort. > > > > indeed. though imho places should really become a feature of efm rather > > than a > > module of its own (well feature of fileman module). e17 needs/wants some of > > these 3rd party modules - cpu and mem meters for example, but we just > > havent > > had the time to deal with it. :) > > > > this dialog is there to cut down the workload in getting a release out. > > it's > > also there to remind the user that they are entering an "unsupported" > > universe. > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:44 -0600 Jeff Hoogland > > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > In the latest alpha there is a warning at startup about 3rd party > > > > modules - > > > > > is there a simple way to disable this message? > > > > > > > > no. i put it there very much intentionally. it's not going away. > > > > > > > > > If I allow it to pop up for Bodhi users I know it will freak out a > > number > > > > > of them (end users are a fairly skittish lot). > > > > > > > > this is part of doing QA. after week after week having people say > > things > > > > like > > > > "i get segvs!" then spending 10 mins back and forth finding its a > > > > out-of-e17 > > > > tree module causing it (eg get them to unload engage and problem goes > > > > away), > > > > i'm tired of my time being wasted by this. we aren't releasing engage. > > we > > > > aren't releasing places, tclock or any of these. we are releasing e17. > > this > > > > is e's version of the kernels "tainted" message. as a gui app.. we > > stuff > > > > that > > > > message into the gui. perhaps you should simply not have any 3rd party > > > > modules > > > > loaded/enabled by default in any profile in bodhi as frankly... we will > > > > wipe > > > > our hands of them and the problems they cause. we don't have the > > manpower > > > > to > > > > spend on that. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ~Jeff Hoogland <http://jeffhoogland.com/> > > > > > Thoughts on Technology <http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/>, Tech > > Blog > > > > > Bodhi Linux <http://bodhilinux.com/>, Enlightenment for your Desktop > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > > > > > web console. 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