On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:39:08 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:21:06 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:06:46 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > > said: > > > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:46:27 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:53:08 +1000 David Seikel > > > > <onef...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:40 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > > > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > tclock is stupid as clock does the same (I > blame e17 for not > > > > > > having digital clock since day0), places could be included > > > > > > with some effort. > > > > > > > > > > tclock is not stupid, clock does not do the same. Clock makes a > > > > > huge inflexible flipping digital clock that takes up a lot of > > > > > space. tclock takes up a lot less space, and is much more > > > > > configurable. What's stupid is that the functionality of tclock > > > > > was not included in clock. > > > > > > > > all the functionality is there. it can display analog or digital > > > > and display day and date too, calendar etc. - the LOOK of the > > > > clock is up to the theme. you could make the theme just use plain > > > > text too like tclock - all controlled by theme. make a new clock > > > > theme that suits you. > > > > > > tclock has the functionality to format the time and date in > > > arbitrary ways that the clock module does not have. So not all the > > > functionality is there. > > > > i added 2 date formats to clock. it can support as many as are > > desired to be added to the gui/code. you're in pedantic ODD land > > there with "i must have day name after date, not before!" (or > > whatever specific formats you absolutely must hand-describe via > > format-strings) :) > > > > all the functionality is there. it can display data AND time. it has > > a calendar view (tclock didnt) etc. - all the core things people want > > are there. in terms of exactly how it looks - it's up to theme. > > "we can add random formats one at a time to the code" is not the same > functionality as "user can use whatever format they want". It's not > ALL the functionality, so you can't say that. Leaving stuff up to the > theme is not helping users who can't theme, and also not the same > functionality. And I'm not the only one still using tclock, so it's not > just me being pedantic. Other people want things that are not in clock. > > If tclock functionality was added to clock, then I'd only use clock, > and likely so would the other tclock users. Right now I use both, coz > neither has the full functionality of the other. It's on my TODO list > to deal with that, but it's really low priority for me, and I got lots > of other stuff to deal with first. > > What you are saying is that cars are stupid coz motorbikes provide all > the core functionality. If you really want a car, weld two motorbikes > together and carry an umbrella. Not actually useful advice to people > that can't weld. :-P average users don't know what formatstrings are in strftime() to tclock is useless to them. thats why providing the necessary "show a date" thing is there. you can get pedantic at "but its not my favorite date format" all you like - the feature is there. you can see dates. as for "users cant theme" - that's the point - instead of writing a whole new module - make a THEME and let people choose it just for the clock. there is no need for tclock as a MODULE - as CODE. the last reason people wanted tclock is for date display - that is now there. the rest is styling in theme. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
