On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:07:41 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:34:59 +0400 Igor Murzov <e-m...@date.by> said: > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:18:26 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:52:44 -0600 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> > > > said: > > > > > > > In the latest alpha there is a warning at startup about 3rd party > > > > modules > > > > - is there a simple way to disable this message? > > > > > > no. i put it there very much intentionally. it's not going away. > > > > > > > If I allow it to pop up for Bodhi users I know it will freak out a > > > > number > > > > of them (end users are a fairly skittish lot). > > > > > > this is part of doing QA. after week after week having people say things > > > like "i get segvs!" then spending 10 mins back and forth finding its a > > > out-of-e17 tree module causing it > > > > That is not true. The crashes were also caused by bugs in E itself. > > and the code path triggered by a 3rd party module. i don't care if e's code > was > to blame - it's a bug we DONT NEED TO FIX FOR RELEASE. making a release is > about prioritizing and cutting out stuff so you can get it done. this is > cutting out work on/elated to 3rd party code that inserts itself into e and > cand then do anything it likes. there is no protection or safety. it's not > possible to do actually (not for a module or plugin - it'd need to be pushed > into another process and that negates the benefits of a module then). > > > Also there are some patches on ML (including mine) that fix crashes > > in external modules, but no one cares enough to review them. > > see above. priorities. and believe it or not - we're pretty busy. > > > And this shitty warning-dialog has nothing to do with QA anyway. > > i suggest you tell the kernel developers that their tainted mssages are also > useless. they'd love to hear that. Useful messages should help to identify and fix bugs. And this warning dialog is to take off responsibility for extra modules, not to help with fixing bugs. So my point still stands. In fact, when i install some alpha software, i do realize that there are some known bugs in it. When i install extra modules for alpha software, i do realize that there are may be some bugs. And poping up a window any time i load some module doesn't make me more careful or something. -- Igor > > -- Igor > > > > > (eg get them to unload engage and problem goes away), > > > i'm tired of my time being wasted by this. we aren't releasing engage. we > > > aren't releasing places, tclock or any of these. we are releasing e17. > > > this > > > is e's version of the kernels "tainted" message. as a gui app.. we stuff > > > that message into the gui. perhaps you should simply not have any 3rd > > > party > > > modules loaded/enabled by default in any profile in bodhi as frankly... we > > > will wipe our hands of them and the problems they cause. we don't have the > > > manpower to spend on that. > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
