On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:59:40 -0200 Lucas De Marchi <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Davide Andreoli > <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2012/11/27 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[email protected]> > > > >> I think that always freezing is as painful, as adding an action to > >> refresh is cumbersome. > >> > >> What about a refresh threshold as Bruno said. It could be one > >> minute, I guess it should do without being as annoying, and it's > >> fixed rate at least. > >> > >> > > and what about just make the list alphabetic sorted so that it > > don't get mess > > when refreshed? > > > there's a logic in how they are sorted: it's best to worst, known to > unknown. "Best" in what way? Your "logic" is only working for some people, other wise the rest would not be complaining. > Sorting alphabetically is the last thing you want to do for networks. It's the first thing you want if you are looking for a particular hotspot. In this case that's the "best" sorting. It may not be the best where you are, but for other people it IS the best. There are quite good reasons why people want a particular hotspot instead of simply which ever one is considered by Lucas to be "best". This is the reason people are complaining and asking for an alphabetical sorting. It's best for them. I would say it's best for a LOT of people. In some cases, like when in a large place with lots of hotspots all setup the same way, sure "best signal strength" is the "best" option. In a big university or hotel often it would not matter which hotspot you use, one account works on them all, so use the one with the best signal. In smaller places where the random hotspots are run by different people that are not cooperating, then "onefangs hotspot" might be the best for you, coz you are visiting onefang, and onefang just opened up an account for you. Even if the 30 hotspots between you and "onefangs hotspot" have better signals, they are entirely useless to you coz they are locked down and you don't have accounts on them. All are "unknown" to you, coz you have never been here before. (OK, not that many hotspots in the area around my personal hotspot, I'm using the "30" figure coz that was quoted before, as unlikely as most people seem to think that figure was.) This second use case can happen in a StarBucks in the middle of a busy shopping centre. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. The "local" hotspot I was allowed to use coz I was shopping there had a worse signal strength than the one from the shop across the hall, but the shop across the hall did not want me to use their WiFi without buying from them, even though it was an open hotspot. The half dozen other hotspots in that same shopping centre where all locked down to accounts only. Both use cases are common, that's why you need alphabetical AND best signal sorting as options. All are "unknown" if you are travelling to places you have never been before with that particular device. Simplifying is good, simplifying away a common use case is bad. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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