On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, David Seikel <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:59:40 -0200 Lucas De Marchi > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Davide Andreoli >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > 2012/11/27 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[email protected]> >> > >> >> I think that always freezing is as painful, as adding an action to >> >> refresh is cumbersome. >> >> >> >> What about a refresh threshold as Bruno said. It could be one >> >> minute, I guess it should do without being as annoying, and it's >> >> fixed rate at least. >> >> >> >> >> > and what about just make the list alphabetic sorted so that it >> > don't get mess >> > when refreshed? >> >> >> there's a logic in how they are sorted: it's best to worst, known to >> unknown. > > "Best" in what way? Your "logic" is only working for some people, other > wise the rest would not be complaining. > >> Sorting alphabetically is the last thing you want to do for networks. > > It's the first thing you want if you are looking for a particular > hotspot. In this case that's the "best" sorting. It may not be the > best where you are, but for other people it IS the best. There are > quite good reasons why people want a particular hotspot instead of > simply which ever one is considered by Lucas to be "best". This is the > reason people are complaining and asking for an alphabetical sorting. > It's best for them. I would say it's best for a LOT of people. > > In some cases, like when in a large place with lots of hotspots all > setup the same way, sure "best signal strength" is the "best" option. > In a big university or hotel often it would not matter which hotspot you > use, one account works on them all, so use the one with the best signal. > > In smaller places where the random hotspots are run by different people > that are not cooperating, then "onefangs hotspot" might be the best for > you, coz you are visiting onefang, and onefang just opened up an > account for you. Even if the 30 hotspots between you and "onefangs > hotspot" have better signals, they are entirely useless to you coz they > are locked down and you don't have accounts on them. All are "unknown" > to you, coz you have never been here before. (OK, not that many > hotspots in the area around my personal hotspot, I'm using the "30" > figure coz that was quoted before, as unlikely as most people seem to > think that figure was.) > > This second use case can happen in a StarBucks in the middle of a busy > shopping centre. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. The "local" > hotspot I was allowed to use coz I was shopping there had a worse signal > strength than the one from the shop across the hall, but the shop > across the hall did not want me to use their WiFi without buying from > them, even though it was an open hotspot. The half dozen other hotspots > in that same shopping centre where all locked down to accounts only. > > Both use cases are common, that's why you need alphabetical AND best > signal sorting as options. All are "unknown" if you are travelling to > places you have never been before with that particular device. > > Simplifying is good, simplifying away a common use case is bad.
I have just committed the solution I proposed. If somebody could test it, would be great. I can't reproduce the problematic use case, and actually didn't test my commit. It would be great if you get to a definite solution before beta is out. Regards > > -- > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: > INSIGHTS What's next for parallel hardware, programming and related areas? > Interviews and blogs by thought leaders keep you ahead of the curve. > http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Bruno Dilly Lead Developer ProFUSION embedded systems http://profusion.mobi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: VERIFY Test and improve your parallel project with help from experts and peers. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
