On 10/06/17 01:25, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:29:51 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>>
> 
> Gentoo does not provide pre-build kernels. Other than on livecd. There
> is a reason. Gentoo is for extremely experienced administrators who may
> be responsible for thousands of servers. I know of such deployments. It
> makes me laugh when people who do not know make such comments about
> Gentoo. It also shows lack of systems administration experience. Done
> right Gentoo can save massive time.
> 
> Will Gentoo save you time on a single server. No.
> Will it save you time on hundreds or thousands.... YES!!!! :)
> 

But we only have 1 :-)

> 
>> i'm not continuing this mail because it's also a waste of my time.
> 
> I would think that to apply to many things that you like to get
> involved in. I wonder why you bother. Why not just say I care less
> about the administration stuff. I just want the stuff to be up always.
> Leave it to others, and you can not waste your time.
> 

I think the point is raster wants a system that's going to work out of
the box with almost no effort and that people who have some sys admin
knowledge can work there way around and do things without much effort,
(we shouldn't care which kernel we have it should just work). Solutions
in this category are things like Debian Stable, CentOS, openSUSE Leap
... Gentoo and even arch really aren't in this category so its really
not what we want, even if someone had a gentoo image they could set up
quickly we would be back at the if something breaks only 1 person can
really fix it which is exactly where we are now.

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